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Jim the box
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http://www.accordions.com/news.aspx?d=29-Apr-2016&lang=en
(about a third of the way down the page)
I just came across this, looks like someone wanted a Bugari Evo rather than a Roland
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(about a third of the way down the page)
I just came across this, looks like someone wanted a Bugari Evo rather than a Roland
Sad that crap like this had to happen. I hope it gets returned. The fact that it's #1 isn't as important as fact that it was stolen.
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acordiansam
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Yea, but I think they voided the warntee!
Mabe they will change the badge to roland and sale it that way.
Sorry, just couldn't help my self. Its not funnie to be riped off!
Mabe they will change the badge to roland and sale it that way.
Sorry, just couldn't help my self. Its not funnie to be riped off!
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Jim the box
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If you read the artical on the web site it reads-
When I first read it, I read it as Stolen: Bugari-Evo Accordion from the Frankfurt Musikmesse by Holda Paoletti-Kampl and I thought. well at least they know who to look for.
(thats why I put the brackets around the name)
I dont think it would be another accordionist though as I have found them to be very trustworthy, I have been to weekend functions where people have left accordions strewn all over the place without incident.
When I first read it, I read it as Stolen: Bugari-Evo Accordion from the Frankfurt Musikmesse by Holda Paoletti-Kampl and I thought. well at least they know who to look for.
(thats why I put the brackets around the name)I dont think it would be another accordionist though as I have found them to be very trustworthy, I have been to weekend functions where people have left accordions strewn all over the place without incident.
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Jim the box
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So true landro, just look at those early electronic accordion and how dated they look now.landro said:
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orchestrator1
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I simply don't believe this could happen. To the Frankfurt Musikmesse organisers who assembled this show, you should be hold personally responsible for this loss. I have been to many exhibitions around the world and I cannot remember any one of them not having HD security cameras in place. Sloppy organisation.
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This is very strange news. Everyone entering with an instrument must have it registered and everyone leaving with an instrument must prove they brought it in. The sales (and then removal) of instruments has always been strictly prohibited at the Frankfurter Musikmesse. So I wonder how anyone could leave with this instrument.
I think the chances of it being recovered will be slim. If the thief is somewhat knowledgeable (s)he must lay low for a while before trying to sell it on as it is unlikely that any Bugari-Evo will become available on the second-hand market any time soon.
I think the chances of it being recovered will be slim. If the thief is somewhat knowledgeable (s)he must lay low for a while before trying to sell it on as it is unlikely that any Bugari-Evo will become available on the second-hand market any time soon.
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Jim the box
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Sounds like an inside job or someone on a stand within the show :idea:
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Nuuksu
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One possibility may be it got "lost" during transportation. There are quite much stories about precious items that got lost after exibitons or moving companys from one building to other. My friend almost left without his synthesizers, because manager forgot them standing outside beside concert hall wall after concert. Maybe something similar happened there too?
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Deleted member 48
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I don't own or play digital accordions, my question may be silly, but, if this Bugari-Evo accordion has been stolen at the Frankfurt Musikmesse, is there a way to track it online?
Can digital accordions, when they are at some point connected to the internet, be tracked ?
If sound files are exchanged in digital accordion players communities ? Or if the digital accordion is used in connection with tablets, computers, .... ?
Do they have some sort of unique code / production / serial number installed in the programming of the instrument?
Can digital accordions, when they are at some point connected to the internet, be tracked ?
If sound files are exchanged in digital accordion players communities ? Or if the digital accordion is used in connection with tablets, computers, .... ?
Do they have some sort of unique code / production / serial number installed in the programming of the instrument?
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DigitalSteve
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Nope.
If it had a wireless interface it would have a MAC address. The MAC address is a unique identifier that is hard-coded into every device that connects to the Internet. It is different than an IP address, which is not device specific (even when statically assigned). The MAC address is what is used to track an individual device and is used to prove cases against Internet criminals.
I don't believe any electronic accordion has WiFi capability. They all are updated via a USB stick which has the code downloaded from the Internet via another connected device.
I would think a bright fire-red Evo or maybe the all-black version would be immediately identified anywhere. It's kind of like stealing the Hope Diamond. Great, you've got the Hope Diamond. Best to put it in your closet because there's absolutely nothing you can do with it.
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If it had a wireless interface it would have a MAC address. The MAC address is a unique identifier that is hard-coded into every device that connects to the Internet. It is different than an IP address, which is not device specific (even when statically assigned). The MAC address is what is used to track an individual device and is used to prove cases against Internet criminals.
I don't believe any electronic accordion has WiFi capability. They all are updated via a USB stick which has the code downloaded from the Internet via another connected device.
I would think a bright fire-red Evo or maybe the all-black version would be immediately identified anywhere. It's kind of like stealing the Hope Diamond. Great, you've got the Hope Diamond. Best to put it in your closet because there's absolutely nothing you can do with it.
Steve
Yes all wired/wireless devices have a MAC address, but that would be of near no use. Unless that person went directly on the net with it (not very likely or probable), then it would be visible... *if* it had detection software that would send a signal like a beacon then it could be found (a la iPhones), however, without this technology, and if behind a router (the most likely of scenarios), all anyone would see is the MAC address of the router, thanks to NAT (network address translation), the technology that prevents us from running out of IP V4 addresses. 
Not that it's important, but I have run into 2 network interfaces that had the exact same MAC address... I had to change it in the software or purchase another card. I did the software choices.
Not that it's important, but I have run into 2 network interfaces that had the exact same MAC address... I had to change it in the software or purchase another card. I did the software choices.
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Deleted member 48
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Maybe the makers of digital accordions can install some anti-theft tracking technology or devices into digital accordions in the future?
An 8 pages Bugari Evo technical info pdf is online
http://www.bugarievo.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Catalogo_BugariEvo_Separate.pdf
Id also like to learn more about the Cavagnolo Digit technics, as it is described as sans fil (wireless) and communicating with a tablet.
Présentation Digi Tablette pour Cavagnolo Digit Millénium
Looks like future accordion students will need a master in ICT...
An 8 pages Bugari Evo technical info pdf is online
http://www.bugarievo.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Catalogo_BugariEvo_Separate.pdf
Id also like to learn more about the Cavagnolo Digit technics, as it is described as sans fil (wireless) and communicating with a tablet.
Présentation Digi Tablette pour Cavagnolo Digit Millénium
Looks like future accordion students will need a master in ICT...
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Jim the box
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Fitting tracking devices into digital accordions, well some models certainly are not cheap, if my box was £10,000 I would want to know where it was parked. :tup:
Perhaps an antitheft device, fingerprint or retinal scanner etc etc……? :b
Wheel clamp :?:
Perhaps an antitheft device, fingerprint or retinal scanner etc etc……? :b
Wheel clamp :?:
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Deleted member 48
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or a starter setup pack for digital accordion, gps-tracking
http://www.easytracgps.com/other-assets-equipment/guitar-gps-tracking/
perhaps drone / copter included?
Would a chip inside an accordion (acoustic or digital) with gps tracking or Phone app the easiest and cheapest to try locating a stolen music instrument?
In high end bicycles its often done
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orchestrator1
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I purchased a Robo Mower not long ago and I have to enter a pin code if I ever lift it off the ground and restart it again. A pin code to start the accordion would be a good idea but if the thief cant play it what would they do with it 
I had a friend who lost his iPad. He had a 4-digit code locking it AND the software to find it.
He found it alright... a kid must have had a bit of time on his hands, because he unlocked it and was playing games on the internet with it, and that's how his iPad was found. My sister bought a Garmin GPS on eBay that was locked... took me 3 hours, but I finally hit the right code and unlocked it. She then had a fully functional $350 GPS for $35!
3-5 digit codes are not had to "crack", just takes time.
He found it alright... a kid must have had a bit of time on his hands, because he unlocked it and was playing games on the internet with it, and that's how his iPad was found. My sister bought a Garmin GPS on eBay that was locked... took me 3 hours, but I finally hit the right code and unlocked it. She then had a fully functional $350 GPS for $35!
3-5 digit codes are not had to "crack", just takes time.
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