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Playing by ear.

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I believe that sheet music with the various chord combinations adds more to the music than is possible playing by ear but I would really like to be able to play by ear and would like to know if there is a book or a dvd that goes with a book that teaches this, even if its just the triad of three simple chords.
 
Surely that depends on the player? I've seen some very expressive players not using sheet music..
And is sheet music not a little restrictive? I wouldn't know I've never used it, but I always get that impression.. I've been putting a lot of practice into learning to improvise recently, sheet music cant teach that..
I'm sure there are pro's and cons to both, but personally I cant help but think playing without sheet music is more natural
 
On the downside, ears can make small mistakes which can make a big difference in the tune.. probably best to be able to do both..
 
I've not come across any books teaching by-ear playing, but would suggest that you pick a tune you like and just have a go at working it out. Playing along to a recording is a good way to start.
Generally, I almost always start with sheet music but then actively memorise the tunes & chords by turning away from the music stand, especially for Morris and ceilidh tunes.
 
I think the answer to your question is that it's not so much about playing by ear as committing the tunes to memory so that you don't need sheet music. I find that some tunes are more easily remembered than others, and I often have to study the sheet music to work out some of the more subtle bits that seem to baffle my memory. Once I have finally worked it all out, then I don't need the sheet music again. However, once in a while I'll come across a tune that I simply cannot memorise completely, and I usually just stop trying to play it. Or in other circumstances I can remember the tune, but as soon as I'm playing it on the accordion I suffer a memory lapse, and that does get very frustrating. Usually such tunes are also consigned to my memory's recycle bin.

It would appear that that some people simply cannot play by ear at all, and it isn't something that can be learned. For instance, I've often picked up the accordion, played a tune near perfectly on it by ear, then realised I had played it in the wrong key. I think this is quite common amongst "ear" players, who often play tunes in different keys. In my case it will usually happen because a difficult tune might be easier to play in another key, and I cannot be bothered to try and nail it in the proper key.

Try playing a tune you know well in a different key. I appreciate that's a lot harder for you PA guys, but if you can manage it, you should be able to try playing other tunes by ear.
 
When "sheet music" means a melody with some chords marked above, aren't we all liable to play partly by ear? I sure think it's a valuable faculty to exercise, anyway, but I'll be surprised if anyone has a good instruction manual for it. Just dive in. Pick a tune and try to play it in a familiar key. I understand that in England you all are very fond of "The Grand Old Duke of York", which might be simple enough for a starter. If it's too easy, as maugein96 suggests, take it to another key. If you can't manage the bass at the same time, leave it out, but that should come along relatively quickly.
 
I think it is worth remembering that sheet music is a shorthand , you use as much or as little as you need.
 
Hah .. perfect answers... i tend to use the notebook approach and then as maugien96 suggests try and commit to memory/feel
I have found this guys youtube channel really helpful in developing ear training ... mostly by studying his cycle of 5ths, walking bass vids etc...armed with this knowledge of what the likeliest chords to accompany the melody makes the task less daunting....
Also someone once told me to find the note that you can play through the whole tune...this will simply give you the root....from there youve only to work out the intervals
Heres a link to a free ear training site... helped me loads... but must confess i still need my shorthand for a crutch
http://www.good-ear.com/servlet/EarTrainer
 
I have not looked at his book, but the Improvise For Real youtube lessons provide an interesting approach to learning by ear:

https://www.youtube.com/user/ImproviseForReal

To learn melody by ear, start with tunes you know best (such as Christmas carols) and fake it until you make it. My understanding is that picking chords by ear is the same thing, just a whole lot harder. Im very much working on that.
 
Yes, there are a few on youtube about playing by ear. It seems its mostly about practice and perseverance starting with easy slow tunes and slowly working up from there. Though playing by ear will never have the same richness and variations of chords on sheet music due to having to play the easieast chords often called the 3 chord trick. Even so it does enable one to play if sheet music is not available.
 
There is also different applications to train your ear. Both on tablet devices, online sites, and computer software. Besides my studies i do some videos and tech support for a software called EarMaster. You can train and develop your ear training skills, which could potentially help you playing by ear. You might wanna check it out. There is a free trial version to try it out. http://www.earmaster.com

Here is one of the videos i made btw. It is basically different professional musicians and students, professors, that are discussing the importance of ear training.

-Niclas
 
I think you've either got it (playing by ear) or you haven't.
I think it depends on your personality type - (and off we go into a thread about Accoprion players and Myers Briggs tests.....)
 
Guernseyman said:
I think youve either got it (playing by ear) or you havent.
I think it depends on your personality type - (and off we go into a thread about Accoprion players and Myers Briggs tests.....)

Interesting point actually, and my reply pertains equally well to playing by ear and to MBTI types. I dont think its a case of youve got it or you havent, I think its a case of one comes naturally and the other requires work. I also think its healthy to exercise your opposite traits from time to time! That one probably applies more strongly to personality than music though ;)
 
goldtopia said:
....Though playing by ear will never have the same richness and variations of chords on sheet music due to having to play the easieast chords often called the 3 chord trick. Even so it does enable one to play if sheet music is not available.

It all depends on the players skill and Chord Knowledge and knowledge or feeling for harmony.

If a player has this in depth knowledge then they would rarely rely on the 3 chord trick

As Puxto said Surely that depends on the player?
 
If we were talking about improvisation, maybe the faculties for that aren't equally well distributed among musicians. But to convince me that some musicians have impaired ability to play a tune by ear, you'd have to show me a few that can't sing or whistle a tune. If you can sing it, you're exercising the same kind of motor control coupled to musical intention, and it's just a matter of learning different motor controls.

As for richness and variations - that begins with playing by ear, in my opinion. Once you can play what you hear in your mind, you have the means to invent. I think for an accordion player that often starts early with the left hand. We get chord charts from which we create a bass line, which can minimally be a mechanical exercise of repeating the chord root for the indicated duration but sure doesn't have to be.
 
Pippa said:
[...] I dont think its a case of youve got it or you havent, I think its a case of one comes naturally and the other requires work. I also think its healthy to exercise your opposite traits from time to time! That one probably applies more strongly to personality than music though ;)

Im with Pippa on that!

On a different note, improvising and playing by ear are not necessarily the same. Readers may improvise by working from the chords provided and without relinquishing sheet music; by ear players may reproduce faithfully what theyve heard without any deviation whatsoever.
 
<FONT font=Garamond><SIZE size=125>Why dont you try Gary Dahls Chord Melody book? Its published by Mel Bay and it should be very helpful.
 
The youtube videos suggested by Niclas and Guernseman are very interesting. I have saved them in my bookmarks and will definately have a go at the Earmaster programme. I can play by ear and by music on the piano but for some strange reason I can only play from music on the accordion.
 
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