Pigini "Ellegaard" freebass

[AccordionUprising]

If anybody lives near Scotland Accordions, I'd love to switch places with them for a few hours to try out this unusual Pigini "Ellegaard" freebass. Does the forum let us do that yet? ?

I want a bass side that extends into the contra-bass range of a stradella box. Often they don't go as low as I want – seemingly intended more for closer counterpoint, rather than deep bass accompaniment?

Also hoping the left side mirrors the right, with the bass notes on top.

Interesting box. It looks small, but there's no measurements. It might sound bigger than it looks, but again, wish I could try it out.

Product not found!

scotlandaccordions.co.uk

 

[debra]

I don't have the specifications of this one, but such a very small free bass accordion is unlikely to have deep bass. Very small accordions do not have room inside to fit the large reeds needed for "contra-bass" notes. It looks like the treble side might go from G3 up to E6. The left-hand side may be about one octave lower if you're lucky, making it between 1 and 2 octaves higher still than what you expect on a large convertor instrument. This accordion is also likely just 1 voice on treble and also 1 voice on the bass side.
Of course Scotlandaccordions should be able to tell you exactly that the range is and which voices it has.

 

[JerryPH]

... and that price! 999 Euros seems a lot for a student model. With only 26 notes on the left hand, that's a bit of a limitation, even my little Hohner student free bass accordion has 36 notes on the left hand.



Paul is right that you are not going to get a tremulously low note, but generally speaking, it will be 1 full octave lower than the right hand.

 

[AccordionUprising]

I'm quite interested in the harmonéon design with larger free bass left hand buttons. But haven't seen anything about the left hand range.

I'm not sure why a lower range wouldn't be desirable for at least some people. If they offer lower notes on stradella counter-bass, it seems like that range would be possible?

I still haven't been able to get a response from Bonifassi on this one:

harmonéon - Bonifassi

Véritable fratelli crosio, cet type d'instrument rare chez ce fabriquant est d'une excellente qualité car monté de manière traditionnelle et artisanale. L'intérieur est constitué avec de très bons bois nobles et durs. Instrument fiable avec [...]

accordeon-bonifassi.fr

 

[lordzedd]

Here's a Bugari Freebass living in Germany: https://www.akkordeonfreund.de/Bugari-Grossknopf-Freebass_1

 

[AccordionUprising]

Here's a Bugari Freebass living in Germany: https://www.akkordeonfreund.de/Bugari-Grossknopf-Freebass_1

Gosh, that's beautiful:

I will write them to ask the range on the left side. Two reeds seems interesting. Will they be ML or what?

I'd also like to know how much it weighs. And if the Left hand C system plays bottom to top or top to bottom.

That is a rare accordion: a free-bass only model (no converter) that's not just a beginner's instrument. I have only seen the harmonéon ones like that I think.

Great find lordzedd!

Bugari
Freebass Bigbutton
Used instrument. Including bag and straps.
Freebass instrument.

Price: 3.199,00 €
including VAT. , no shipping costs

Technical specifications

Treble / right hand side
39 tones, 66 buttons, 5 rows, C-System
7 registers
3-reeds (16+8+4)

Melody-bass, MIII
43 tones, 71 buttons, 5 rows, C-System
3 registers
2-reed / chorus (16+8)

Color: Black
Dimensions: (height - width - depth) 41 x 41 x 20,5 cm

 

[AccordionUprising]

Looking again, it says in the listing that the reeds are:

Treble / right hand side
3-reeds (16+8+4)

Melody-bass, MIII
2-reed / chorus (16+8)

So, LMH / LM?

Are L bass-reeds normally used on stradella bass the same as the ones on the right side? ie. Is that as low as the left hand can go? On a bayan for instance it seems like the left hand goes way lower than the range of the right. But this instrument says "16" on both sides.

 

[lordzedd]

Fisitalia makes a similar, bigger one: https://www.fisitalia.com/prodotto/bayan-ergo/?lang=en

 

[lordzedd]

No experience with any of them, but I love looking for accordions. Doing more of it now while I've got some tendonitis keeping me from playing. Always happy to recognize something that might work for a forum member's needs.

 

[Jim2010]

Here are three accordions that may be of interest. I have no affiliation with the seller. I once enquired about the Fratelli C-system accordion instrument (or one like it) and it was LM and left hand has lowest notes at the top (toward head).

Fratelli C-Griff MIII Freebass

Knopf-Akkordeon

www.musik-center.de

Pigini Freebass C-Griff

Knopfakkordeon C-Griff

www.musik-center.de

ZeroSette Pinocchio Leader B10C

Knopf-Akkordeon

www.musik-center.de

 

[AccordionUprising]

That Fratelli is pretty cool.

 

[stickista]

Wow… If I had enough time left on the clock, this is the instrument I’d commit to.

Bayan-ERGO - Fisitalia Accordions made in Italy

Accordion produced by Fisitalia, a high quality instrument. Chromatic or piano keyboard

www.fisitalia.com

 

[JerryPH]

I am seeing a bit of a rise in top end instruments, and that is something that makes me very happy. That Ergo is an amazing accordion!

 

[lordzedd]

Here is another harmoneon from a private party if you are still searching: https://www.leboncoin.fr/instruments_de_musique/2109573804.htm

 

[AccordionUprising]

Here is another harmoneon from a private party if you are still searching: https://www.leboncoin.fr/instruments_de_musique/2109573804.htm

€500! I will contact them! Thank you!

 

[AccordionUprising]

Might anyone be able to help me contact this seller?

Accordéon (harmonéon) Maugein:
https://www.leboncoin.fr/instruments_de_musique/2109573804.htm


I tried to log into the Leboncoin website but it requires a phone number in only a few countries?

Anyone with an account, or one of these phone numbers willing to contact the buyer and pass on my email? I'm quite interested in the instrument, and happy to pay their price and shipping if they can pack it well.

DM me and I'll give you an email to pass to them if that works.

Thanks so much! ‍? ?

Bruce Triggs
Vancouver, BC Canada

 

[godgi]

ok i might do for u later today.
godgie

 

[AccordionUprising]

The latest update on my quest is that I'm in the process of buying the harmonéon that lordzedd found, from the owner that godgi helped me contact! Finalizing details, and they're preparing to ship. It's a Maugein model, being sold by a person who played as a child and lives about 40 km from the Maugein factory. So it will be traveling a long way from home!

I should have better photos in a bit. Wish it a bon voyage.

 

[Pipemajor]

The latest update on my quest is that I'm in the process of buying the harmonéon that lordzedd found, from the owner that godgi helped me contact! Finalizing details, and they're preparing to ship. It's a Maugein model, being sold by a person who played as a child and lives about 40 km from the Maugein factory. So it will be traveling a long way from home!

I should have better photos in a bit. Wish it a bon voyage.

Can I caution you that there are scams on leboncoin just as on other sites ,as I have personal experience.
I tried to buy a Roland fr4x last year and on two separate occasions the sellers were trying to scam people into sending the money first.
Luckily I had paid via leboncoins own payment protection scheme so I got my money back , but there were comments on other accordion forums in France so obviously others had been taken in.
I'm not suggesting for one moment that this seller isn't genuine but you can be very vulnerable when you are unable to deal in person.
The Maugein factory is in Tulle where they have a" Nuits de Nacre" festival each year lasting about a week purely for accordions.
There is a river running through the centre of the town where accordeonistes play in the evenings while gliding up and down the river.

 

[lordzedd]

Awesome to hear. Quite the international operation!