A very valid point. I have seen some reach the point where they could indeed play in a performing band (but not at the highest level), but I have also seen some reach the point where they could play well on their own, and it sounded fantastic as long as you did not try to make sense of the rhythm they were playing...Depends what you mean by "old" and "good." I have seen people get good enough to play in a performing band who I taught in their late 50s. My newest student is 65 or so. Ok, maybe they won't become virtuosos but "good"? No problem. It's the emotion, soul, that they put into music they love and can play. Soul knows no age and who cares about the Bumblebee anyway?
The 3 outer rows of a CBA keyboard are simply the same as a piano keyboard sliced in groups of 3 notes placed diagonally! Very simple. I prefer the B-system because I think going left to right is more intuitive that the opposite, but this system is more popular in Eastern Europe and the Slavic world. I have two C-system accordions, and 3 that are B-system including 2 Bayans with 3 rows. I could never get used to a piano keyboard on an accordion
Thank you! This is great! I think i can learn this! I just have to make room in my house by getting rid of some ofthe accordions i already have.I hope I'll be forgiven for posting a link to a video I made relating CBA keyboard to piano keyboard.
For what its worth...i would like to be good enough to play for others and they enjoy it!A very valid point. I have seen some reach the point where they could indeed play in a performing band (but not at the highest level), but I have also seen some reach the point where they could play well on their own, and it sounded fantastic as long as you did not try to make sense of the rhythm they were playing...
Different teachers and books will mention different fingerings, but I play 1-2-3-2-3-4-3-4.If you were to play C scale on PA the fingering would be 1-2-3-1-2-3-4-5
What would the fingering be on the CBA-C system?
You missed a note out (the B).Piano: 1231 because F falls under the thumb.
Buttons falling easily under the thumb for C system: C Eb F# A 9ie row 1)
D is on the same row as F so that's a 2 which makes 1 2 3 2 3 4 1 but there are other choices.
It seems here we are confusing technicality with musicality.A very valid point. I have seen some reach the point where they could indeed play in a performing band (but not at the highest level), but I have also seen some reach the point where they could play well on their own, and it sounded fantastic as long as you did not try to make sense of the rhythm they were playing...
Nothing wrong with appreciating a well played simple tune for what it is. I don't try to over-analyse it. But when it's supposedly a well-known simple tune and it is played in a way that throughout the performance I still cannot guess what the time signature could have been on the sheet music... (This happened a few times, and the real time signature was just something simple like 2/4 or 4/4 or 6/8....) There are many people who can reach a usable level with enough practice, no matter at what age they start learning the first basics of music. But there are some that remain rubbish no matter how many hours a day they practice. And for many people playing together with others is a large part of the fun, but if you cannot possible stay more or less synchronized it becomes much less fun. I have seen this too many times to still believe that everyone can learn to play music so that a "well played simple tune" comes out. Some people just cannot do it, not even with hours of practice every single day.It seems here we are confusing technicality with musicality.
What's wrong with just appreciating a well played simple tune for what it is without having to analyse every element.
Strange, I have not noticed any perfectionist in this whole thread.Oh dear. Every session has one - the perfectionist.
I used to run sessions and I had a player that harranged anybody that dared to accompany her, which was odd as it was an accustic jam session.
She was a semi-pro legend (at least in her own mind) and thoroughly unpleasant, constantly sniping about the ability of others.
In the end I asked her politely not to come back.
Personally I would rather have musicians however badly they play, as (to me) it's about participation and supporting a culture of respect and inclusiveness. But then again, I'm sure I'd be slated for less than perfect timing by others. Ask me if I'm bothered....
Perhaps they enjoy the experience of performing even though they're 3 out of 10 (in your opinion).However, even with our dutch mentality of being very satisfied with "6 out of 10" there are people who, no matter how much they practice, even reach 6 out of 10 but stay around what I would rate as 3 out of 10. Sadly here, it seems to be offensive to tell anyone that their level does not reach the minimum acceptable level. I simply always try to be honest, and when something is rubbish I will simply say it is rubbish.
|L||Progress of self-learning CBA after a month||Teaching & Learning||10|
|D||Learning to read on CBA||Accordion Chat||12|
|Learning to use a Metronome||Teaching & Learning||34|
|B||Learning resource help||Accordion Chat||10|
|C||Question about learning curve and progress||Accordion Chat||52|