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Hi,
My name is Marius and I currently live in Chicago, US. I was born in Romania, and I am a big lover of music and dancing. I am 40 and, as an adult, over the years I tried on several occasions to learn by myself to play different instruments, but so far I have not succeeded, I would say mainly because of a lack of selfdiscipline, but could be also because of the absence of proper professional guidance.
This summer , while in vacation in Romania, I had the opportunity to watch and listen to a friend of mine play live the piano accordion, and I just fell in love on the spot with the instrument and the beautiful music that it produces. Fast forward, a couple weeks later I was taking accordion lessons and even though it’s been a very challenging process, I absolutely love it and am almost obsessed by it. In total I took about 8 hrs of private lessons until now.
This week I returned to Chicago and I am looking at options to buy an accordion, and also at options to continue my learning journey. I have some questions, and will write them here for now. I hope that my questions make sense.
1. Considering my age, which one is more recommended to start with, between piano accordion and button accordion ? Or how do I make that decision? until recently I just assumed there is just 1 type, the piano accordion, and that is also the one that I took my 8 lessons with.
2. Any recommendations for accordions that I can use with headphones (for practice reasons) , but which still have the “feel” of a traditional accordion ? I want to make sure that if I learn/practice on a electronic one, all that practice and acquired experience is transferable to a traditional one. My instructor recommended that I get the 120 bass and 41 keys traditional type, so ideally I would get an electronic with 120 bass and 41 keys, which ”feels” like a traditional. I hope that makes sense.
3. any recommendations on what would be the wisest way to learn to play the accordion really well at this age? Is it recommended to go the “by ear“ route, or the ”learn music theory” route? Or based on what do I make that decision?
4. Is there a “fleet feet” type of place/store where I could go and get guidance in choosing an instrument that would fit me best?
5. What is an average per hour price for accordion private lessons?

Any advice and recommendations are welcomed and appreciated!

Thank you!
 
Welcome Marius!
There are several different "free reed" instruments, each kind having a different arrangement of treble board, bass board, range of notes, degree of "chromaticity" and whether the notes sound the same belows opening or closing, or different.
For most people, the instrument they play is decided for them by the music their ethnic or friendship group plays.
The piano accordion and the chromatic button accordion (several types) are somewhat more adaptable/flexible though, here again, at the expense of some authenticity.
So, when you say,
"What accordion should I get?"
the answer is,
"It depends."
It depends on what music you want to play and who you want to play it for/with.🙂
I'm sure people here will be more than willing to discuss options with you: this is only the beginning!😄
 
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Chicago seems to be well supplied with both accordion shops and accordion repairers!🙂👍
Have a really good browse around!🙂
 
I think the piano accordion is popular for traditional music in Romania. If you want to play the music of your homeland, maybe do what they do - that's how I see it. Accordion is strongly associated with tradition and culture in many countries - France, Russia, Italy, Scotland and the Balkan lands, for example. Music is extra nice when it is more than a hobby, it is part of your heritage. Just sayin'...
 
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Hi Marius,

Welcome to the forum. It's great to hear about your musical ambitions and we wish you a great deal of success.

You asked about a digital accordion so that you can practice silently. Is there a specific reason for this? A digital accordion has a completely different feel and despite their differences, you shouldn't have problems switching between the two types. I have owned my Roland Fr8x for several years now and have used headphones exactly twice. If you play quietly you won't disturb your family or your neighbors.

In North America piano accordions are the prevalent type so you may want to take this under consideration, even though some people claim that chromatic button accordions can be easier to learn but it might be more difficult to find a teacher.

If you're playing mostly traditional music the regular acoustic instrument should work well and definitely get a full size 41/120 instrument. Lastly it's important to learn music theory because this opens up more options and once you learn theory it's easier to play by ear. I can say that once you learn a lot of songs using sheet music this allows you remember more songs and to learn more new ones your own.

Good luck with your playing, I hope that it brings you and those around you much joy!
 
Hi Marius,

Welcome to the forum. It's great to hear about your musical ambitions and we wish you a great deal of success.

You asked about a digital accordion so that you can practice silently. Is there a specific reason for this? A digital accordion has a completely different feel and despite their differences, you shouldn't have problems switching between the two types. I have owned my Roland Fr8x for several years now and have used headphones exactly twice. If you play quietly you won't disturb your family or your neighbors.

In North America piano accordions are the prevalent type so you may want to take this under consideration, even though some people claim that chromatic button accordions can be easier to learn but it might be more difficult to find a teacher.

If you're playing mostly traditional music the regular acoustic instrument should work well and definitely get a full size 41/120 instrument. Lastly it's important to learn music theory because this opens up more options and once you learn theory it's easier to play by ear. I can say that once you learn a lot of songs using sheet music this allows you remember more songs and to learn more new ones your own.

Good luck with your playing, I hope that it brings you and those around you much joy!
Thank you!
The reason for the digital accordion is to be able to practice even later at night, or at the most random times without disturbing anyone. It’s for my own peace of mind as well, to know that I do not have that to worry about being too loud. I totally agree that if I play quietly I would not disturb anyone, the thing is that it seems I am incapable of doing that for now :)) Maybe later, with more practice I will get better at it.
Thank you for your recommendations!
 
I think the piano accordion is popular for traditional music in Romania. If you want to play the music of your homeland, maybe do what they do - that's how I see it. Accordion is strongly associated with tradition and culture in many countries - France, Russia, Italy, Scotland and the Balkan lands, for example. Music is extra nice when it is more than a hobby, it is part of your heritage. Just sayin'...
I agree, most likely I’ll stick to piano accordion
 
Welcome Marius!
There are several different "free reed" instruments, each kind having a different arrangement of treble board, bass board, range of notes, degree of "chromaticity" and whether the notes sound the same belows opening or closing, or different.
For most people, the instrument they play is decided for them by the music their ethnic or friendship group plays.
The piano accordion and the chromatic button accordion (several types) are somewhat more adaptable/flexible though, here again, at the expense of some authenticity.
So, when you say,
"What accordion should I get?"
the answer is,
"It depends."
It depends on what music you want to play and who you want to play it for/with.🙂
I'm sure peoples here will be more than willing to discuss options with you: this is only the beginning!😄
Thank you for the warm welcome! I am still discovering what I want to play, but romanian ethnic music is for sure high on the list.
“This is only the beginning“ sounds great :). I love hearing different perspectives from different people.
 
I have owned my Roland Fr8x for several years now and have used headphones exactly twice. If you play quietly you won't disturb your family or your neighbors.
Because I have a basement, I mostly play and practice there, but the times that I do play upstairs, I am usually practicing on the acoustic. Not many people enjoy listening to scales, exercises and the same song repeated whole or in part over and over 2-4 hours a day! :)

(I'm not saying that I practice 2-4 hours a day.. I **wish** I had the time, though, because the desire for me s there!)
 
Because I have a basement, I mostly play and practice there, but the times that I do play upstairs, I am usually practicing on the acoustic. Not many people enjoy listening to scales, exercises and the same song repeated whole or in part over and over 2-4 hours a day! :)

(I'm not saying that I practice 2-4 hours a day.. I **wish** I had the time, though, because the desire for me s there!)
I also practice in a separate room with a door that can be closed. Like you it would be nice to have 2 hours per day to practice. My wife has grown accustomed to my practice sessions after 36 years, but my dog really enjoys listening and if he approves will join in.
 
I also practice in a separate room with a door that can be closed. Like you it would be nice to have 2 hours per day to practice. My wife has grown accustomed to my practice sessions after 36 years, but my dog really enjoys listening and if he approves will join in.
Haha... a great way to tell if you are doing it right!!
 
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