vibro shaking style

[VMaccordion]

As you know there are some parts of songs which sounds very good when played in vibro shaking style. I have tried to play like that but it doesn't work for me at all. Do you have any tips or maybe you know some  easy exercises how to begin to learn vibro shaking style?

 

[Simon Max]

I wonder why nobody does a knee shake. Maybe because everyone decided that the accordion should rest on the left knee.
I can play quite well with the accordion on the right knee and can use my left knee to do a nice shake.
Maybe you can try doing a viabrato that way, too.


Simon from the Holy Land

 

[debra]

As you know there are some parts of songs which sounds very good when played in vibro shaking style. I have tried to play like that but it doesnt work for me at all. Do you have any tips or maybe you know some  easy exercises how to begin to learn vibro shaking style?

Vibrato shaking often doesnt fit with the music we play. But there is one very common exception: the very last note of slower Piazzolla pieces, and other music with a similar ending, often sounds really great when you give it a vibrato. It doesnt always have to be the end of a whole piece. Sometimes it can be also at the end of an intro or some other part.
Example: Adios Nonino the way I play it (copied from Carel Kraayenhof). The video is  and the first vibrato comes at 1:02 into the video, and then there is vibrato at the end, at 4:32.
Regarding the technique there are two versions: you can vibrate with your left hand (turn you hand while pulling (or pushing) to vary the pressure), or vibrate the treble side by shaking your right hand a bit. The left hand technique is the most common.

 

[Giovanni]

I had never really seen bellow shaking the accordion until I attended the Las Vegas Accordion Convention in about 2002 .The top of the Bill was the Accordion Legend Dick Contino and also Tony Lovello ...talk about bellow shakes unbelievable I would hate to be those accordion Reeds !!!!…………….There should be YOUTUBE footage on the internet .

Giovanni

 

[debra]

I had never really seen bellow shaking the accordion until I attended the Las Vegas Accordion Convention in about 2002 .The top of the Bill was the Accordion Legend Dick Contino  and also Tony Lovello ...talk about bellow shakes unbelievable  I would hate to be those accordion Reeds !!!!…………….There should be YOUTUBE footage on the internet   .

Giovanni

Bellow shake is something very different from vibrato.
I did some tough shake in , jump to 5:13 to hear it without waiting for over 5 minutes.
There are different types of shake. The plain shake just moves the bellows out and in (as in that video). There is also ricochet which is for triplets. You can hear that in  at 0:50 and again at 2:32. This is a lot harder as you need to make a movement that gives you 3 notes from one pull-push motion, by combining an in-out motion with a down-up motion.

 

[Giovanni]

I had never really seen bellow shaking the accordion until I attended the Las Vegas Accordion Convention in about 2002 .The top of the Bill was the Accordion Legend Dick Contino  and also Tony Lovello ...talk about bellow shakes unbelievable  I would hate to be those accordion Reeds !!!!…………….There should be YOUTUBE footage on the internet   .

Giovanni

Bellow shake is something very different from vibrato.
I did some tough shake in , jump to 5:13 to hear it without waiting for over 5 minutes.
There are different types of shake. The plain shake just moves the bellows out and in (as in that video). There is also ricochet which is for triplets. You can hear that in  at 0:50 and again at 2:32. This is a lot harder as you need to make a movement that gives you 3 notes from one pull-push motion, by combining an in-out motion with a down-up motion.

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Yes you are correct it was triple bellow shakes

 

[Dingo40]

V M Accordion,
Zevy does some bellow shake in his rendition of Shostakovich Walz #2 on this forum 

Is this what youre thinking of? :huh:



Or this?: :huh:



Or this? :huh:

 

[Dingo40]

Paul,
Nice clips , well played!

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I wonder why nobody does a knee shake. Maybe because everyone decided that the accordion should rest on the left knee.
I can play quite well with the accordion on the right knee and can use my left knee to do a nice shake.
Maybe you can try doing a viabrato that way, too.


Simon from the Holy Land

Simon,

This guy ( Stanislav Culcicovschi) rests his accordion on his left knee and demonstrates the left  knee vibrato ( right at the end of the clip) :

 

[debra]

V M Accordion,
Zevy does some bellow shake in his rendition of Shostakovich Walz #2 on this forum 

Is this what youre thinking of? :huh:



Or this?: :huh:



Or this? :huh:

Many thanks for these links to very clear videos. What I was explaining before for triplets is what is shown in the second of the three videos and is called ricochet. (There is a version for triplets and a more difficult version for quadruplets but the video shows triplets and thats the only one I master as well. For quadruplets I just use bellow shake and do 2+2 instead of 1+3.)
The third video with the vibrato is also very good.

I just came across another video of a girl mastering ricochet very well:

 

[Dingo40]

Great clip, Paul,
Thanks 

 

[Eddy Yates]

Hey VM....without any input from you, tough to know what type of Vibrato you mean.
Heres some from Tony Lovello, accordionist from the group The Three Sons, popular in the U.S. in the 50s. He still played great, even at this age. Im not sure anybody else plays exactly like this. Really horrible sound quality, but since its Tony, we can excuse it!

 

[VMaccordion]

Hey VM....without any input from you, tough to know what type of Vibrato you mean.
Heres some from Tony Lovello, accordionist from the group The Three Sons, popular in the U.S. in the 50s. He still played great, even at this age. Im not sure anybody else plays exactly like this. Really horrible sound quality, but since its Tony, we can excuse it!

I see any type of vibrato as a trance. For example I like this one   starting at 3:07

 

[maugein96]

Hey VM....without any input from you, tough to know what type of Vibrato you mean.
Heres some from Tony Lovello, accordionist from the group The Three Sons, popular in the U.S. in the 50s. He still played great, even at this age. Im not sure anybody else plays exactly like this. Really horrible sound quality, but since its Tony, we can excuse it!

I see any type of vibrato as a trance. For example I like this one   starting at 3:07

Heres a very young Joxan Goikeotxea, a Basque from San Sebastian in Spain, demonstrating various shakes.



The French pop accordionist, Aimable Pluchard, was one of the few musette players who used the bellows shake to good effect. The quality of this recording is pretty dire, but from about 00.46 you should be able to hear it, getting stronger the second time he comes in. What he does is repeatedly strike the buttons on his CBA whist shaking the bellows, and it gives a sort of echo effect. Its doable with a lot of practice, but its hard to get right every time. 

Aimable played everything from simple folk to the classics using only three fingers of his right hand most of the time. Some of the backing on the track is him playing a button Ketron keyboard. He wasnt very highly rated by his more technically advanced colleagues, but Ive heard many very accomplished pro French players trying to play that tune, and none of them has been able to carry it off anything like the way he did. Not a difficult tune on paper by any means, but Aimable had a presence and style of delivery only possessed by one in a million. Only Verchuren sold more records than Aimable in France.

 

[Dingo40]

Eddy,
What a great clip (Tony Lovello), what a maestro!
Thanks for posting!

VM,
Thanks for the Martynas Levickis clip. Hes good. I have one of his CDs

John,
Thanks for the Joxan G clip: impressive!

Heres Aimable P at work:

 

[maugein96]

Eddy,
What a great clip (Tony Lovello), what a maestro!
Thanks for posting!

VM,
Thanks for the Martynas Levickis clip. Hes good. I have one of his CDs

John,
Thanks for the Joxan G clip: impressive!

Heres Aimable P at work:

Dingo,

The accordion music of the Baltic republics never seems to have had much press, and I was surprised that Martynas appeared on a UK show. There used to be quite a few pockets of Lithuanian communities in the UK, and perhaps he has relatives in the UK. He is a very good player indeed. 

The sound quality in JGs clip doesnt do his playing justice. He used to play in a duet with a fellow Basque accordionist named Idoia Laburu, but I believe she lives in North America these days. I think youve posted clips of them before. They used to play big Cavagnolo boxes. 

Unfortunately most of the thousands of recordings made by Aimable and Verchuren etc, were of the very type that turned the younger generations away from the instrument. It was music aimed at the older population, and when they attempted to incorporate international standards like Besame Mucho into the repertoire, the young set dropped it like a stone. 


I have been castigated (castrated even) on here before for saying so, but a similar situation existed in Scotland when I lived there. Only a certain amount of the population can really warm to the same old syndrome, and most people want variety in their listening. Folk and traditional music still has a following worldwide, but its difficult to put a label on French musette. It appears to have been a fad that lasted quite a long time. Not that I follow the modern scene much, but most young French players appear to pay lip service to it, without holding it in very high regard. 


I couldnt tell you the names of many pop stars since about 1970, so maybe thats why the accordion appeals to me.

 

[Dingo40]

I couldnt tell you the names of many pop stars since about 1970, so maybe thats why the accordion appeals to me.

John,
The same thing here!

Heres Martynas again:



And again:

 

[Eddy Yates]

Someone on the forum posted this when Tony died, but it’s worth seeing again. I would usually say I’m not into these old songs “just because”, but Lovello really makes them come to life. Lots to learn here and apply (if we can!)
Cory clearly studied, respected, and loved Tony’s playing, and that’s what makes this presentation so good.

 

[John M]

. . . Heres some from Tony Lovello, accordionist from the group The Three Sons, popular in the U.S. in the 50s. He still played great, even at this age. Im not sure anybody else plays exactly like this. Really horrible sound quality, but since its Tony, we can excuse it!
. . . 

I really enjoyed that.  Heres a video I came across of Tony & Cory in a duet on Twilight Time.  I am just an amateur, but how they complement each other I think is amazing.

   

John M

 

[Dingo40]

Eddy,

Amazing clip!
Thanks for sharing!

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John M,
Thanks for the clip: most enjoyable!