The length of keyboard

[yaroslav9728]

Merry Christmas everyone

I would like to ask you all one thing. Which keyboard length is more suitable for an adult with the height of 185-186 cm?

 

[Tom]

Merry Christmas to you, Yaroslav!

I don't think there is a "one size fits all" solution. There are many factors to consider. Many involving personal choice.

I'm assuming here you are talking piano keyboard. Maybe it's the same for cba.

Are you used to a full sized piano? Then a keyboard with the same sized keys is good.

Same with if you are looking for a standard size so you can easily play many accordions you encounter. The experts here will know the most common size. I don't.

Are you looking to save weight and size? A more compact, smaller keyboard might be the way to go. Also if you have small hands, or shorter fingers.

Are you restricted to 41 treble keys, or would a lighter, smaller accordion with 37 (or less) keys be appropriate?

Basically, I think it comes down to getting the features you want at the size and weight you are comfortable with. I really haven't met that accordionist looking for a heavier instrument.

Imho, keyboard size (unless the keys are simply too small for your fingers) is secondary to accordion condition, sound, and features. At my age, give me the lightest accordion possible with a sound I like, I'll deal with the keyboard size.

Good luck!

 

[yaroslav9728]

Merry Christmas to you, Yaroslav!

I don't think there is a "one size fits all" solution. There are many factors to consider. Many involving personal choice.

I'm assuming here you are talking piano keyboard. Maybe it's the same for cba.

Are you used to a full sized piano? Then a keyboard with the same sized keys is good.

Same with if you are looking for a standard size so you can easily play many accordions you encounter. The experts here will know the most common size. I don't.

Are you looking to save weight and size? A more compact, smaller keyboard might be the way to go. Also if you have small hands, or shorter fingers.

Are you restricted to 41 treble keys, or would a lighter, smaller accordion with 37 (or less) keys be appropriate?

Basically, I think it comes down to getting the features you want at the size and weight you are comfortable with. I really haven't met that accordionist looking for a heavier instrument.

Imho, keyboard size (unless the keys are simply too small for your fingers) is secondary to accordion condition, sound, and features. At my age, give me the lightest accordion possible with a sound I like, I'll deal with the keyboard size.

Good luck!

I am looking for full size piano accordion with full features for LMMH configuration but not so heavy.
Without Converter or similar features. Just regular LMMH piano accordion with standard keyboard length.

 

[yaroslav9728]

I have found this spreadsheet, may I use it for reference
The snapshot is attached

 

[Tom]

Interesting, thanks Yaroslav. For you, unless you are buying new, your choices will be limited more by what is available than by what is possible. My advice is to try every accordion you can and pick the one that seems right based on condition, sound, features and price, not necessarily in that order. Good luck, please post pictures!

 

[Ben-jammin]

I would say I think your chart is a good “recommendation”. I think if you follow it you will have no issues with size. I think besides an instrument being physically wearable for someone there is an ergonomic consideration. You want to be able to position the five fingers of your right hand on five adjacent white keys and for it to feel natural. If you have feel any stress in your hand as you do this it will likely cause your hand to cramp up playing successive notes close together. If you can do that with an accordion smaller than what’s recommended on your list than you should be ok. There is a range of sizes that should be comfortable for you to do this, I don’t think you’ll come across an instrument that is too large from a keyboard standpoint. But there are definitely ones that are too small.

 

[yaroslav9728]

I found these them.
What can you say about it?

Pigini Piano Accordion LMMH 41 Keys 120 Bass - Black

Right Hand / Treble41 Piano Keys4 Sets of ReedsLMMH (description)10+M Switches / Registers19" Keyboard Left Hand / Bass120 Bass Buttons5 Switches / RegistersDetailsMade in ItalyWeight 23lb / 10.4kgIncludes: Used Straps and Case6 Month Warranty

accordionscanada.ca

Marinucci Piano Accordion LMMM 41 Keys 120 Bass - Light Blue

41 Keys | 4 Sets of Reeds | LMMM | 9 Treble Switches | 19" Keyboard | 120 Bass Buttons | 2 Bass Switches | Made in Italy | Weight 20 lbs. | Used Straps and Case | 6 Month Warranty

accordionscanada.ca

Accordiana Model 320 Made by Excelsior Piano Accordion LMMH 41 Keys 12

Right Hand / Treble 41 Piano Keys 4 Sets of Reeds LMMH (description) 9 Switches / Registers 19" 3/4 Keyboard Left Hand / Bass 120 Bass Buttons 3 Switches / Registers Details Made in Italy Weight 21lb / 9.5kg Includes: Used Straps and Case 6 Month Warranty

accordionscanada.ca

Currently, I have these three candidates for purchase.

 

[Ben-jammin]

I can’t speak about market prices for these models. I will let others do that. They seem a bit pricey but if they have been properly serviced and ready to go they might be an ok price. That would mean in tune, air tight and reed leathers flat and ready to go for a few more years.

The accordiana was Excelsiors student line. I would expect it to be well constructed but with only ok reeds.

One of them is LMMM. For four reed set accordions this would be my preference but that extra reed set at best only gives a slightly more complex mussette when compared to LMM or LMMH accordions. Personally I seldom use the register selections with H sets on my LMMH accordions. But that may not be the same for you. My point is as a student I would not pay a premium for an LMMM vs a LMM, but maybe a LMMH makes sense because it gives you more unique sounds. Of course ideally you would try all these and pick the one with the nicest combination of tone, keyboard action and reed response.

 

[yaroslav9728]

Let's see what others can say about these accordions.
Anyway, thanks for your opinion Benjamin

 

[yaroslav9728]

I can’t speak about market prices for these models. I will let others do that. They seem a bit pricey but if they have been properly serviced and ready to go they might be an ok price. That would mean in tune, air tight and reed leathers flat and ready to go for a few more years.

The accordiana was Excelsiors student line. I would expect it to be well constructed but with only ok reeds.

One of them is LMMM. For four reed set accordions this would be my preference but that extra reed set at best only gives a slightly more complex mussette when compared to LMM or LMMH accordions. Personally I seldom use the register selections with H sets on my LMMH accordions. But that may not be the same for you. My point is as a student I would not pay a premium for an LMMM vs a LMM, but maybe a LMMH makes sense because it gives you more unique sounds. Of course ideally you would try all these and pick the one with the nicest combination of tone, keyboard action and reed response.

Personally, I am looking for LMMH accordion because I want to have more possibilities for learning and growth.

 

[yaroslav9728]

I apologize if I behave myself as a pretty annoying person. I just wanted to know professional opinion.

 

[Ben-jammin]

I apologize if I behave myself as a pretty annoying person. I just wanted to know professional opinion.

How accessible is this shop to you?

 

[Tom]

If you're looking for lmmh, I like that Pigini over the Accordiana. Do they have the same number of bass voices? I think the Pigini is nicer looking, but only my opinion. I think the condition and sound would be a big factor. Play them both and tell us what you think.

 

[yaroslav9728]

How accessible is this shop to you?

20 minutes by bus from my home

 

[yaroslav9728]

What anybody can say about Todeschini accordions?

 

[yaroslav9728]

Happy new year!
Is it good shape of reeds?

 

[Tom]

Happy New Year,, Yaroslav! They look good from here, how do they sound? In tune?

 

[yaroslav9728]

Happy New Year,, Yaroslav! They look good from here, how do they sound? In tune?

I don't know because I took this picture from the Internet. ?

 

[Ben-jammin]

I am curious if you are looking to buy this accordion based on the picture or just want a reference to know what a good reed looks like.

Those look good, but it isn’t safe to say one side of these 5 reeds look good so the rest must also be good. Even if this image there are still 75% of the reed surfaces not seen (both sides of the inlet reed and the back side of the outlet reed). I’ve seen plenty of accordions where some reeds look pretty good and others have serious issues.

 

[yaroslav9728]

I am curious if you are looking to buy this accordion based on the picture or just want a reference to know what a good reed looks like.

Those look good, but it isn’t safe to say one side of these 5 reeds look good so the rest must also be good. Even if this image there are still 75% of the reed surfaces not seen (both sides of the inlet reed and the back side of the outlet reed). I’ve seen plenty of accordions where some reeds look pretty good and others have serious issues.

There is a reference to know how the reeds in good condition look like. Because I am preparing check point steps, which I will be using during purchase.