reeds Harmonikas.cz

[FISABLU]

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.harmonikas.cz/%3Flanguage%3Den%26s%3Dnabidka%26id_kategorie%3D7&ved=2ahUKEwiG9-rlm4WMAxU0gP0HHfzpGSEQFnoECBoQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3C6pAfzaNrok7ZDNvygBoc

are these voices good? why do some producers from Castelfidardo use these foreign voices instead of those produced in Italy?

 

[JerryPH]

Reeds from some companies in CZ are some of the best in the world. Most Bayan accordions use reeds from CZ.

Also as to why, economics also plays a big deal. CZ is a country that has wisely chosen to not use the Euro and is still using it's own currancy (the CZ crown), so it's prices may be very reasonable.

 

[OuijaBoard]

The standard Weltmeister models as well as the Chinese-produced Hohner Bravos PAs and Nova CBAs use Czech export reeds. Provided they are set in and voiced competently they are perfectly fine, particularly for world folk genres. Perhaps just a tad less fat/robust in lung power or voice character than the West German factory reeds in the standard-issue Hohners before production moved to Asia. But pretty close in response and sound.

 

[tcabot]

It's worth noting that fisablu is asking about one of the harmokias a-mano ranges, while standard weltmeisters and china-hohners most likely have much lower grade reeds in them, so not really comparable.

My only experience with harmonikas was that on 3 occasions when I requested a quote for reed sets (because why on earth would you publish a price list on your website, right?) they did not bother replying.
If that's their sales customer service, I dread to think what their aftersales service is like.

From what I've heard third-hand, their hand made ranges are good. Dural is dural - life's too short to play poor quality reeds if you ask me.

 

[debra]

The standard Weltmeister models as well as the Chinese-produced Hohner Bravos PAs and Nova CBAs use Czech export reeds. Provided they are set in and voiced competently they are perfectly fine, particularly for world folk genres. Perhaps just a tad less fat/robust in lung power or voice character than the West German factory reeds in the standard-issue Hohners before production moved to Asia. But pretty close in response and sound.

That's interesting to know. I wonder what reeds are in the Chinese-produced Hohner Amica Forte PAs. What I do know is that they go out of tune very quickly. Much worse than what I have hears in Italian accordions...

 

[tcabot]

What I do know is that they go out of tune

Is that not more likely to be a valve/wax issue than the reed themselves?

 

[debra]

Is that not more likely to be a valve/wax issue than the reed themselves?

I have no idea and I'm not about to open up a new accordion still under warranty.

 

[Ventura]

....I'm not about to open up a new accordion still under warranty.

a wize decision

in the Brass and Woodwind segment, when the first waves of
cheap instruments targeting school music programs came
through, scores of parents got suckered into buying them
as compared to the monthly rental cost and rent to own of
a legit decent student instrument

but the repair shops quickly learned you could barely take one
apart for a simple repair without some other piece breaking or
the impossibility of fitment allowing a solid re-assembly, and
of course the repair shop was blamed for the bigger problem,
and zero parts availability, zero warranty beyond 60 or 90 days

the result was a complete boycott of the asian built student instruments
by repairmen, which worked in the favor of the direct re-sellers, as they claimed
the "industry" was just guilty of protectionism.. afraid of people saving
so much money with the cheap student Sax or Trombone

quite a mess really, and the students suffered most by having sub-par
instruments that barely worked and never reliably, with Parents
thinking they were doing the right thing and digging in their heels

a similar thing happened more recently when the avalanche of battery
powered mini scooters and such caught the eye of inner city youth..
literally a ton of un-repairable junk within a year cluttering up junkyards

 

[tcabot]

Reminds me of a conversation I had with a friend of a friend:

- You know a thing or two about guitars, right?
- I build them.
- My son wants to learn to play - can you recommend a good budget instrument to learn on?
- Yes of course, I can have a quick look in local ads for what you can get used for under £600 to get him started for the first year or two.
- I was thinking cheaper, £75 maybe.