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Once upon a time

Ventura

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there were dance floors in every club and restaurant..

part of playing a "good set" was measured by how full you could keep
your dance floor.. one of the responsibilities of the Musicians during their
break was to talc and sweep the floor.. i learned THAT on my first steady
gig at the Fireman's Club down in McKees Rocks when i was still a teen
with a Cordovox and a trio in Pittsburgh..

we were fortunate in the Wash DC/Baltimore region to also have professional
dance studios who followed our steady "gigs" and sent their students to us
so they could have fun and show off what they had learned.. the Teachers
also would come out, and we had some special relationships/songs/arrangements
that they could count on us to do for them.. occasionally we would also perform
for some special event for our closest friends

and i say friends because there is no way we could have truly compensated the
many wonderful Pro Dancers for the hundreds of "floor shows" they gave us..
dressed to the nines and making their turns to perfection..

the one i remember the best was this teacher who would show up anywhere from
Annapolis to Rosslyn to Little Italy and bring his two long term associates with him..
tall and elegant Blondes (one of whom was always 'after" our Drummer, Aldo)
We had several extended arrangements He preferred, but the show-stopper was
ZORBA.. and we had signals worked out with him so he directed our shifts during the
song as well as the point where the tempo changed.. they worked HARD dancing this
as a trio, one girl on each hand, perspiration often obvious by the end.. always an ovation..

those days began to disappear as the cost of real-estate skyrocketed, especially
downtown, to where the big places that could make a living filling the room once
for a night of Dinner and Cocktails then had to start turning the tables 2 or 3
times just to make the rent.. The trend away from drinking and driving also had
an effect on profitability for the venues.. soon the old Clubs went out of business
and the new ones were much smaller and seldom even had any dance floor
or open space at all.. actually towards the "end' of that era of Dining and Dancing,
the only steady Gigs i had left with the old ambience were at a few Marriott Senior
Living "Hotels" that were kind of the forerunners of the modern independent Senior Living
facilities we see today.. These places also had huge dining halls, but the newer ones
stopped keeping space for a dance floor too, so even those dance venues faded into history

i truly enjoyed and did my best to hold up my end of that symbiotic relationship
between the Musicians and the Dancers, and certainly some of my best memories
and happiest times at the Top of the Town, la Bella Vista, the Jeffersonian, Park Place,
Euro Cafe, La Parisienne, Piccolo Mondo, Petitto's, la Trattoria, Heritage Harbor,
JoAnnaFilomena, the Watergate, Cafe de Paris and others came on the nights when
our 4th set went on and on and on into the night as late as we could get away with it..

and we made a living doing it !

what actually annoys me in my dotage is when Dancing with the Stars plays
crap pop songs that have nothing to do with the Tango or Samba..LoL

but yes, once upon a time..
 
Cool story Ventura, an experience I never got to experience. Inquiring minds want to hear more….. Used to be big supper clubs/ballrooms around here for the polka/waltz/shottische old time crew but the last one burned down a few years ago. There are still some here in the upper Midwest but you gotta look hard to find them, and you’re more apt to see a concertina than an accordion. I’m sure there are guys/gals playing Italian music in Milwaukee or Chicago. Only consistent dance band I know is the forró in Madison and the dancers all speak Portuguese.
 
there were dance floors in every club and restaurant..

part of playing a "good set" was measured by how full you could keep
your dance floor.. one of the responsibilities of the Musicians during their
break was to talc and sweep the floor.. i learned THAT on my first steady
gig at the Fireman's Club down in McKees Rocks when i was still a teen
with a Cordovox and a trio in Pittsburgh..

we were fortunate in the Wash DC/Baltimore region to also have professional
dance studios who followed our steady "gigs" and sent their students to us
so they could have fun and show off what they had learned.. the Teachers
also would come out, and we had some special relationships/songs/arrangements
that they could count on us to do for them.. occasionally we would also perform
for some special event for our closest friends

and i say friends because there is no way we could have truly compensated the
many wonderful Pro Dancers for the hundreds of "floor shows" they gave us..
dressed to the nines and making their turns to perfection..

the one i remember the best was this teacher who would show up anywhere from
Annapolis to Rosslyn to Little Italy and bring his two long term associates with him..
tall and elegant Blondes (one of whom was always 'after" our Drummer, Aldo)
We had several extended arrangements He preferred, but the show-stopper was
ZORBA.. and we had signals worked out with him so he directed our shifts during the
song as well as the point where the tempo changed.. they worked HARD dancing this
as a trio, one girl on each hand, perspiration often obvious by the end.. always an ovation..

those days began to disappear as the cost of real-estate skyrocketed, especially
downtown, to where the big places that could make a living filling the room once
for a night of Dinner and Cocktails then had to start turning the tables 2 or 3
times just to make the rent.. The trend away from drinking and driving also had
an effect on profitability for the venues.. soon the old Clubs went out of business
and the new ones were much smaller and seldom even had any dance floor
or open space at all.. actually towards the "end' of that era of Dining and Dancing,
the only steady Gigs i had left with the old ambience were at a few Marriott Senior
Living "Hotels" that were kind of the forerunners of the modern independent Senior Living
facilities we see today.. These places also had huge dining halls, but the newer ones
stopped keeping space for a dance floor too, so even those dance venues faded into history

i truly enjoyed and did my best to hold up my end of that symbiotic relationship
between the Musicians and the Dancers, and certainly some of my best memories
and happiest times at the Top of the Town, la Bella Vista, the Jeffersonian, Park Place,
Euro Cafe, La Parisienne, Piccolo Mondo, Petitto's, la Trattoria, Heritage Harbor,
JoAnnaFilomena, the Watergate, Cafe de Paris and others came on the nights when
our 4th set went on and on and on into the night as late as we could get away with it..

and we made a living doing it !

what actually annoys me in my dotage is when Dancing with the Stars plays
crap pop songs that have nothing to do with the Tango or Samba..LoL

but yes, once upon a time..
Hi Ventura , You have wonderful memories as i do even in my little small way we sing /play from the same page so to speak .
The few Ballroom dance clubs that are left now just play CD's for their dancers ........not the same but why pay for musicians when one of the committee members with no charm or charisma just plays various CD'S from a selection of top strict tempo ballroom Dance bands of yesteryear !!
Yes I agree with you about the choice of music for some of the routines for dancing with the stars ...........that has always been my complaint about the music played on this very popular TV show !!
I thought i was the only old Codger with this opinion !!!.............................in our different ways we have had and seen the best of Times !!!! (cue for a song) !! in the music Era
 
(cue for a song)
well then, for the inquiring minds..

cue Kitty Kallen behind the old style Mic onstage..
the band modulates down into her key then drops to a soft support..

" Never thought that you would be
Standing here so close to me
There's so many things i'd like to say
But words can wait until some other day "

and when Harry James takes the chorus
the Dancers are really hitting their stride..

Kitty takes it home.. " it's been a long, long time....
it's been a long
long
time"
 
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thanks for finding that Dingo, and thanks Judy for
feeling the song..

preface: for years i did a 3 part WorldWar2 tribute show
that told the story of the times through a chronology of the
amazing Songs that were inspired by events. Back then
the Music, the Big Bands, something called V-Disks, and
Armed Forces broadcasts honestly defined and framed
the experiences the people lived through

Kitty Kallen was literally the first voice that welcomed
back the troops after Armistice day, and the 3rd part
of my show opened with that number and was true to
the V-Disk arrangement..

it was followed by songs that helped recall the journey home

Sentimental Journey
String of Pearls
Chattanoogah ChooChoo
Tuxedo Junction
i'll never Smile again (and others)
(and i closed the show with) i'll be seeing you

each song was prefaced with the tale that went with it,
and they all had a story that tugged at those hearts

at this point, literally all the people who i crafted that
show for are gone.. but i did get to help a lot of people
travel back in time over the decades i took the show around.
had the pleasure to do it for the USO Banquet a few years,
then the Rosie's had a special event in Baltimore one year,
and down here in DC many different groups like the
Tuskeegee Airmen would come to town for a reunion,
but by the end of the last century mostly i took a slimmed
down version of the show to Senior Living and assisted living
residences, of which we actually had 3 in this area that
catered to retired Service members

great songs.. wonderful memories.. and the power of Music
 
Out in Farmingdale there was a restaurant called, The 56th Fighter Group.It had tons of WW2 memorabilia scattered around and a constant canned WW2 sound track over the PA system. You’d have to make a reservation months in advance for their spectacular Sunday brunch. We used to go there once a year with three or four other couples.

They closed a few years ago. I don’t see anything like it that’s close by.
 
I would like to think that younger generations may discover the beauty of this music. I know some younger folks I've seen on Facebook singing Sinatra songs (very young kids). But I don't know if that's just wishful thinking. I do think Gen Z is built different than the Millenials.
 
Those were the days when music, dance floors, and real connection made nights electric. You didn’t just play; you built something alive with every set, every talc-swept floor, every Zorba-fueled ovation. Now? Most places can’t even fit a dance floor. But damn, we made it swing while it lasted.
 
the Karma was returned to us in many ways..
but the best was when, on some steady gig
that we had forever, people would meet, dance,
come back most every week, fall in love, then
a year or 2 on, ask us to play for their Wedding
because we were a part of their story and they wanted
us to be there.. not just hire us..
 
we had this one steady gig out in the boonies southwest of Pittsburgh
in a really rural area that had more in common with Patsy Cline
and Hank Williams than our usual crowds, and we adjusted the
setlists to suit, but it was still a straight up Dinner and Dancing
kind of place.

the thing that always got to me out there, as i got to know the
locals over time, was the way that goin' out on a Saturday Night
was almost like goin' to Church for them.. they gave it everything
they had to get ready in their finest and conduct themselves
with real class.. the difference from "city" folk was simply that
their lives were hard.. living paycheck to paycheck just getting
by raising a family working the toughest jobs, like in the
Coal mines.. the wear and tear of Life was etched in their faces
and bodies, but on Saturday night they escaped for a few hours
with us, with the Music, with the atmosphere

You betcha this was when where and why i learned and sang some
songs from Gentleman Jim (Reeves) Eddy Arnold and such
 
I NEVER thought I would want to learn/play an Eddy Arnold song (Cy Coben, actually)....but here I am.
"There's been a change in me", check it out.
Also lovin' the Melvin Endsley tune "Never felt more like singin' the blues", Marty Robbins version.
Next in line is "Cincinnati Lou", which has a fun accordion solo in it. I've "discovered" vintage country!
Who'd a thunk it ( seems to me there's a song by that name.......)
 
I like Eddy Arnold. I have to check out this "Cincinnati Lou" song now! Could you post the version with the accordion solo? I googled it and just came up with Merle Travis, and no accordion solo.
 
Sorry Judy....my bad...the accordion in on Cincinnati Lou. Nice little two-step rhythm in the background and a short solo. Here's the link.


OOPS, not my bad. Reread my post above. Hope you enjoy it!
 
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