Korg FISA SUPREMA

[JerryPH]

That's bad news for me. There's another video out there with very few views of a guy that's Fisa is always jumping to Register 13 when he selects any bassoon register, or something like that. If he selects Register 2 and starts playing it will jump to Register 13 all on it's own within a minute.

I play my FR-8X unbelievably enthusiastically. Not like some others that barely move the bellows or use light bellows curves. In 10 years it's never had an issue. I sure hope this is a one-off but from Paul's comments I agree that the method for joining looks very flimsy.

I pull a Gola and Morino without much effort, I definitely can strain my 8X when needed, never had issues with mine, and... don't tell anyone... when I first got mine, it was so new that pulling it was HARD, so I hung it from the straps on a door knob overnight to stretch it out a bit... LOL

Linda’s a serious golfer from what I’ve seen of her posts. How that figures into the broken Korg is anyone’s guess …

Linda is all of what 135-150 pounds? I doubt she even uses strength that strains any accordion, digital or otherwise.. lol

Those small plastic pieces with small screws won’t hold much I’m shocked to see that holding the left side to the right - imagine people doing bellow shakes and a little twisting and that looks like a disaster waiting to happen or in Linda’s case has already happened

Yeah, I noticed that. In 100% fairness, what Ventura said about the 8X is very true, they screw things right in to the polycarbonate case, seems the Fisa does it too, but they really placed the holes too close to the edge and caused a POTENTIAL weak point. Where it can get serious is if you take it apart and together as little as 2 times, the screws DEFINITELY get looser and that has to be addressed. I did it using loctite, but if I ever do it again, a weaker form of epoxy is what I am going to use!

If you are still considering on getting one, I'd suggest maybe waiting to see what the official news from KORG is about this, but don't let it bother you too much, or if you have one on order... don't stress over it. I see it more as teething pains rather than anything much more. Now if over the next month, we see this happen 50 more times... THAT is when I would say it is serious.

 

[JerryPH]

It’s on the FISA Suprema by Korg Facebook group

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Thanks, thats where I caught it. My link did not catch in the post, I see. Probably due to an error code 15.

 

[Thomas N]

Linda is all of what 135-150 pounds? I doubt she even uses strength that strains any accordion, digital or otherwise.. lol

Linda plays like Dale Mathis from what I've seen. They are both very easy on the accordions. If she had a problem then I'm most definitely going to have a problem. Then again Cory and that Italian marvelous player really put the Korg through the paces and it seems to hold up - although I doubt they'd hop into this thread and tell us if it didn't!

I wouldn't if I was sponsoring it. I think this is a one-off.

 

[JerryPH]

Linda plays like Dale Mathis from what I've seen. They are both very easy on the accordions. If she had a problem then I'm most definitely going to have a problem. Then again Cory and that Italian marvelous player really put the Korg through the paces and it seems to hold up - although I doubt they'd hop into this thread and tell us if it didn't!

I wouldn't if I was sponsoring it. I think this is a one-off.

I agree, I've seen Cory play in real life, he is brutal with all his boxes... LOL
And no, I would never expect anyone to come here and discuss possibly disasterous issues, especially if they were sponsored by Korg, I would HOPE though, that they discuss things in nauseating detail with them!

I am thankful that Linda made a public post about it.

 

[Pbraido]

You would think that Korg would have went with a wood body given the price and from what I read from posts from Evo users the nicer sound that comes with it then you would have had the best of both with all the digital improvements and much more sturdy accordion body it’s sad they didn’t go that way

 

[JerryPH]

You would think that Korg would have went with a wood body given the price and from what I read from posts from Evo users the nicer sound that comes with it then you would have had the best of both with all the digital improvements and much more sturdy accordion body it’s sad they didn’t go that way

You have to remember the people heading the design are originally from Roland, just like the people that are from Bugati/Evo. They may have some licensing rights from Roland but none with the Evo people, that's why it leans more towards a Roland in design than an Evo. They could have done their own thing but chose to stick closer to home, so to speak.

 

[Alan Sharkis]

Well, you all know, or should know by now that I’m quick with a comment about digital accordions but this case is an exception. I’m waiting for resolutions on both the ‘breakaway treble side’ issue and the ‘registers self-changing’ issue before commenting.

 

[JerryPH]

No harm commenting, I am sure that because the people involved care, that it will be resolved and looked at.

 

[Thomas N]

No harm commenting, I am sure that because the people involved care, that it will be resolved and looked at.

They better! That's a $8600 US dollar instrument for me after taxes. It shouldn't come apart in two weeks like that. And looking at those tiny screws into two pieces of plastic causes me concern. The warranty is gone after 12 months, then what?

 

[Thomas N]

Couldn't let this one go without attaching this 10M view ancient viral meme-worthy video.....

 

[JerryPH]

They better! That's a $8600 US dollar instrument for me after taxes.

The warranty is gone after 12 months, then what?

Hang on... for you? Did you place your order yet?

And to your 2nd point... after that, well, the front falls off, but only if you change environments... LOLOL

 

[Thomas N]

Hang on... for you? Did you place your order yet?

And to your 2nd point... after that, well, the front falls off, but only if you change environments... LOLOL

Not yet Jerry. Still considering it. I see things I like and then a few videos on things that are either inferior to my current FR-8X or just downright discouraging about the product itself. It's still very early for the product and my mind is open.

 

[JerryPH]

Not yet Jerry. Still considering it. I see things I like and then a few videos on things that are either inferior to my current FR-8X or just downright discouraging about the product itself. It's still very early for the product and my mind is open.

People here have an idea about how I am. If I decide I want something, I do what is necessary to make it happen (ie: my Gola story where I travelled half way around the world for an accordion... lol). I've never played a Korg Fisa, but just based on all the videos, comments and stuff that I have seen out there... I am going to politely pass on it. The product, in my personal opinion, is not quite ready. Too many compromises for the few nice features it does offer.

That said, I likely still will try one out likely in June when I visit my friend Keith in Burlington Ontario, if he has one in stock.

 

[Alan Sharkis]

$20 DVD players and clock radios have threaded brass inserts
molded into the plastic body for mating/assembly purposes
but Roland put the screws directly into the plastic.. something i
publicly gave them headaches about back in the day.. but just like
other baggage from the Bruti crowd, apparently the new Korg
is no more intended to last very long (physically) or be well
supported into the future by being repairable than an FR7x

I guess there has to be enough thickness of the plastic for those inserts to work. But aside from that, they do guarantee good alignment of the parts as well as more secure attachment. But then, it just might add enough cost to cut into profit. Another suggestion I’ve seen is a wood shell instead of plastic. That might make sense tonally as well, but it would be even more expensive than the inserts.

 

[skopaczewski]

guy that's Fisa is always jumping to Register 13 when he selects any bassoon register, or something like that.

I just got my Fisa last Friday thanks to Kevin Solecki and Greg Vee!
I have seen odd/unexpected selections when using the front switches, e.g., I hit button 2, and item 4 gets selected.
Maybe it's expected behavior? I don't know.
I also have a tendency to accidentally hit the master bar with my leg. But Master isn't 13.

 

[Thomas N]

I just got my Fisa last Friday thanks to Kevin Solecki and Greg Vee!
I have seen odd/unexpected selections when using the front switches, e.g., I hit button 2, and item 4 gets selected.
Maybe it's expected behavior? I don't know.
I also have a tendency to accidentally hit the master bar with my leg. But Master isn't 13.

It's not accidental. He has put the camera on the accordion screen while it sits on the ground, hits a register and then watches. And he has video of it switching to Register 13 all on its own.

 

[Pbraido]

Has anyone read the post from Linda Herman where her FISA broke into 2 pieces on the trebels side? Quite shocking!


Korg is 100% going to take care of this... but why in the world would this even ever happen on a released production unit and is this going to be a thing or a one-off situation?

My personal opinion? Linda's been working out... lol

Apparently Linda’s is not the only one here’s another that the same happened to from the facebook group

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[debra]

Apparently Linda’s is not the only one here’s another that the same happened to from the facebook group

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It's a serious bummer as this is clearly a design fault. Screws going into plastic like in the Fisa are bound to cause the plastic to break sooner or later...
I really hope they will redesign this part (the connection between treble side and bellows) and not just replace broken ones by identical new ones.
What a bummer. I got my wife to agree to buy the Fisa (the compact one, in CBA) and now this...

 

[Thomas N]

I appreciate the early adopters out there who endure these first-batch issues so that future buyers don't need to. This will be all covered by Korg but you still need to package up the accordion and send it in, which is no small order, then be without your instrument for at least a week, and then hope it's in perfect condition when it makes the return trip.

Looks like there's both hardware and software issues out there right now, which is a major deterrent for those on the fence.

 

[John M]

I agree, I've seen Cory play in real life, he is brutal with all his boxes... LOL
And no, I would never expect anyone to come here and discuss possibly disasterous issues, especially if they were sponsored by Korg, I would HOPE though, that they discuss things in nauseating detail with them!

I am thankful that Linda made a public post about it.

Amen to that.
As I have said before -- I am going to buy this Fisa -- Someday -- After all of the "bugs" are flushed out, both Software & Hardware. I'm not so worried about the software, since you can do a download of the new Software/Firmware. I will make sure the production date of the Fisa I buy was manufactured after 3/24/25.