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Korg FISA Suprema C

I would not want anything larger than my FR4x. As far as weight, have no concern as I play seated with my straps loose on my shoulders. Oddly enough, the FR1x is less comfortable as the size doesn’t rest as comfortably when seated like the FR4x.
May go into the direction of FISA C. When I checked a couple weeks ago, the back orders are six weeks out.
 
I would not want anything larger than my FR4x. As far as weight, have no concern as I play seated with my straps loose on my shoulders. Oddly enough, the FR1x is less comfortable as the size doesn’t rest as comfortably when seated like the FR4x.
May go into the direction of FISA C. When I checked a couple weeks ago, the back orders are six weeks out.
And it looks like it's only $1000 less than their flagship Fisa. $7000. That's an awful lot of cash for a mid-size digital accordion with reduced feature sets. I would only consider the full-size for that relatively marginal difference in price, but I understand your use case.
 
And it looks like it's only $1000 less than their flagship Fisa. $7000. That's an awful lot of cash for a mid-size digital accordion with reduced feature sets. I would only consider the full-size for that relatively marginal difference in price, but I understand your use case.
Especially for the CBA version the size difference is important because the full-size version is really too large for a CBA. The compact version appears to have a better size. Of course real-world hands-on experience will be needed...
 
Especially for the CBA version the size difference is important because the full-size version is really too large for a CBA. The compact version appears to have a better size. Of course real-world hands-on experience will be needed...
Sounds like you’re curious enough to try one, which brings up an important question: Are there dealers in your area who keep a demonstrator model on hand?

In the USA, some dealers do, some don’t.
 
Sounds like you’re curious enough to try one, which brings up an important question: Are there dealers in your area who keep a demonstrator model on hand?

In the USA, some dealers do, some don’t.
I'm not in a hurry, but I am going to be at the World Music Festival in Innsbruck (May 29 - June 1). That's a huge competition for accordion ensembles and orchestras. There are always demos and information and sales booths from major accordion vendors. I expect there to be demos by Korg and chances to try some hands-on.
 
Kudos to Korg on their first adventure in the digital accordion. Although, like Roland, they are experienced in Aero instruments. Nice to see them release the compact version as well.
 
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Is the weight difference of under a kilogram (9.9 vs 10.6) enough to qualify it as "lightweight"?

Less keys, smaller speaker, no aftertouch / master bar, which is all fine for a more budget friendly model, but the alleged price difference ($1000 USD) is not that much.
I was thinking, at first, that comparing the Fisa Suprema to the Fisa Suprema C is something like comparing the Roland FR-8x to the 4x. But that’s not really fair.

True, the Rolands have the same sound engine and so do the Korgs. But the weight and price differences are much wider in the case of the Rolands. Roland chose to give the FR-4x a 37-note treble keyboard, and Korg chose to keep the 41-key configuration in their treble keyboard (I don’t know how that work in the cba versions.) After playing 41-key acoustic accordions, I thought I would be limited by the 37-key right-hand keyboard on the 4x. I wasn’t.

The difference that sticks out for me between the FR-8x and the 4x is that while it’s possible to do some sound editing on the 8x without a software editor, it’s totally inconvenient to edit sound on the 4x without a software editor. I hope that Korg develops an editor for each or both of their digital accordions.
 
I was thinking, at first, that comparing the Fisa Suprema to the Fisa Suprema C is something like comparing the Roland FR-8x to the 4x. But that’s not really fair.

True, the Rolands have the same sound engine and so do the Korgs. But the weight and price differences are much wider in the case of the Rolands. Roland chose to give the FR-4x a 37-note treble keyboard, and Korg chose to keep the 41-key configuration in their treble keyboard (I don’t know how that work in the cba versions.) After playing 41-key acoustic accordions, I thought I would be limited by the 37-key right-hand keyboard on the 4x. I wasn’t.

The difference that sticks out for me between the FR-8x and the 4x is that while it’s possible to do some sound editing on the 8x without a software editor, it’s totally inconvenient to edit sound on the 4x without a software editor. I hope that Korg develops an editor for each or both of their digital accordions.
Have you really looked at the info from Korg? The Korg Suprema C in PA version has a 37 key keyboard, just like the FR4x. However, the Korg goes F to F whereas the Roland goes G to G. The Suprema C is most useful in its CBA version because it has the same keyboard as the full-size one (92 buttons). The same also holds true for the Roland CBA versions.
 
Have you really looked at the info from Korg? The Korg Suprema C in PA version has a 37 key keyboard, just like the FR4x. However, the Korg goes F to F whereas the Roland goes G to G. The Suprema C is most useful in its CBA version because it has the same keyboard as the full-size one (92 buttons). The same also holds true for the Roland CBA versions.
Thanks for pointing that out.
 
Just my opinion, but I've said this for a very long time... if you want an acoustic... use an acoustic. This is very specifically made to be a devil-do-all electronic gizmo, in this case, an even slightly smaller one. :)
Late to the party, but... I'm with Paul on this one. The case for an digital accordion shares a lot with the case for an digital piano, gizmos not withstanding:

  • Never needs tuning (but can be easily tuned to match another instrument that does!)
  • Emulates not just one acoustic instrument, but several. My Yamaha P-515 models both a Yamaha CFX and a Bösendorfer Imperial, which really saves room in the house. :-) Likewise, an accordion that have different musette tunings on a whim, cassotto or not, etc., is pretty handy.
  • Can be played silently, with headphones
  • Orders of magnitude easier to deal with in a live, amplified situation. That's the big one for me. No mics, no feedback, no problems! This is also the reason why people like Elton John, etc., who can afford to have a real piano brought in, tuned, and miked up for a concert, still go with a digital piano in a fake piano cabinet.
I'd be totally fine with a digital accordion that was just an accordion. That's all I need one to be. Although since it's all a matter of software, that probably wouldn't change the price much.
 
Late to the party, but... I'm with Paul on this one. The case for an digital accordion shares a lot with the case for an digital piano, gizmos not withstanding:

  • Never needs tuning (but can be easily tuned to match another instrument that does!)
  • Emulates not just one acoustic instrument, but several. My Yamaha P-515 models both a Yamaha CFX and a Bösendorfer Imperial, which really saves room in the house. :-) Likewise, an accordion that have different musette tunings on a whim, cassotto or not, etc., is pretty handy.
  • Can be played silently, with headphones
  • Orders of magnitude easier to deal with in a live, amplified situation. That's the big one for me. No mics, no feedback, no problems! This is also the reason why people like Elton John, etc., who can afford to have a real piano brought in, tuned, and miked up for a concert, still go with a digital piano in a fake piano cabinet.
I'd be totally fine with a digital accordion that was just an accordion. That's all I need one to be. Although since it's all a matter of software, that probably wouldn't change the price much.
You are preaching to the choir on that Jeff, but for all the benefits, it's still not quite there with the sound. I say it often, I am blessed not just with the best acoustics but a "former king" of the digital world, I don't have to settle, I get to enjoy both and understand and accept the advantages and limitations of both. :)
 
Yup, "C" for "compact". :)

The button version really seems to benefit the most with less compromises moving to the smaller size than the PA.
Looks like 55 treble notes, compared to 37 in the piano version! Quite a difference. Similar to the Roland FR-3x and FR-4x.
 
i don't think they listen to us

they listen to Bruti and the like

if you want them to listen to you, gotta hit them in the head with a
club/clue.. over and over and over again

perhaps y'all finishing/finalizing/fully fleshing out the clear-cut
"specs" of our digital Virtual Victoria/Titano thread, and then waging
a continuous campaign of e-mail's with the product specs spelled
out for them and printing it out and everyone who can get
in someone's face about it at shows and events literally make
them eat a copy

it isn't easy getting the ear of the actual decision makers, or
even identifying them..
 
Looks like 55 treble notes, compared to 37 in the piano version! Quite a difference. Similar to the Roland FR-3x and FR-4x.
And the 55 notes start with C in the C-system version (with the lowest C only on the 4rd row however).
When this is combined with the 8vb option and then used with the 16-8 register it suggests that the Fisa can be used as a bass accordion.
However, whether it really works as a bass accordion depends on the stability of the frequency at high volume. The Fisa tries to simulate an acoustic accordion, where the frequency goes down as you play louder. A bass accordion almost solves this problem (the sagging is negligible). If you cannot control how much sagging the Fisa uses it becomes unusable as a bass accordion... I hope that there will be a presence of Korg at the World Music Festival in Innsbruck at the end of May so I can ask some questions and may try something...
 
You are preaching to the choir on that Jeff, but for all the benefits, it's still not quite there with the sound. I say it often, I am blessed not just with the best acoustics but a "former king" of the digital world, I don't have to settle, I get to enjoy both and understand and accept the advantages and limitations of both. :)
Yeah, I'd say we're about where we were in the '90s with digital pianos like the Roland RD-300: You can tell it's fake if you listen closely, and you certainly wouldn't want to do a solo classical recording using one. But on a stage, with a band, over the PA, it will do the job quite nicely.

Sure would be nice if the subsequent increase in quality and drop in price that happened to digital pianos eventually happens to digital accordions, wouldn't it?
 
Sure would be nice if the subsequent increase in quality and drop in price that happened to digital pianos eventually happens to digital accordions, wouldn't it?
It would be nice, but I doubt it is going to happen.
On top of the fact that it's all about making a buck, tariffs are likely going to cause a price explosion upwards.
 
I put in an order for the compact version. Hoping to control my Korg arranger with the chin switches and top 6 bass buttons. Looks very compatible to Korg arrangers. Hoping the internal Bluetooth will direct pair to my Airturn bt500s-6 pedal. 6 foot switches, orchestra expression and another port for maybe Wah Wah effect?we shall see! May use the gyro, but a little skeptical on how it is triggered.
The midi implementation chart looks the same as the Korg PA5x. We shall see what is possible with my needs. As everyone as different needs. Looks like shipping around the end of May but who knows, that could change. As I waited 3 months to get my FR4x.
 
I put in an order for the compact version. Hoping to control my Korg arranger with the chin switches and top 6 bass buttons. Looks very compatible to Korg arrangers. Hoping the internal Bluetooth will direct pair to my Airturn bt500s-6 pedal. 6 foot switches, orchestra expression and another port for maybe Wah Wah effect?we shall see! May use the gyro, but a little skeptical on how it is triggered.
The midi implementation chart looks the same as the Korg PA5x. We shall see what is possible with my needs. As everyone as different needs. Looks like shipping around the end of May but who knows, that could change. As I waited 3 months to get my FR4x.
Best of luck! I'm waiting for Korg to show up at the World Music Festival in Innsbruck at the end of May. (That's a large competition for accordion ensembles and orchestras.) I want to see, hear and hopefully also try a Fisa Compact before ordering one.
 
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