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How about this guy (Gigi Stock)

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I’ve got a long CD of him playing various pieces and, till now, going by the name, I figured he was a woman !<EMOJI seq=1f633>?</EMOJI>
I must have been preconditioned by the film and song “Gigi”<EMOJI seq=1f610>?</EMOJI>

 
To coin a phrase, “his fingers never leave his hands!”<EMOJI seq="1f604">?</EMOJI>
Interesting bass board configuration and he seems to use it as much as the treble. No use of either thumb?
 
And very nice too, Jazz! And just look at those fingers fly, and at his age too!<EMOJI seq="1f44d">?</EMOJI>
BTW, I was misled about the spelling of his name by some of the YouTube listings: it’s “Stok”, as is clearly written on his accordion <EMOJI seq="1f642">?</EMOJI>.
 
I’ve just been surfing the web and there’s a lot of his stuff there, and very good it is too !<EMOJI seq="1f44d">?</EMOJI>
 
Dingo,

His name was Luigi Stocchi, and Gigi Stok was his stage name. The bass system is the 7 row version of what is known as bassi modenese, from the city of Modena in Emilia Romagna. Gigi was from nearby Parma, and is the only Italian TV personality Ive seen playing that particular bass system. He used the old style of CBA fingering that excludes the thumb from the treble fingerboard, but probably didnt care too much, as he was a big earner in his day.

Only modern big name player to use the 6 row version is Daniele Donadelli. He is from the same general area as Gigi Stok, and plays a fusion of Italian-French musette.

Whilst PA is the most usual type of accordion found in Italy, CBA is probably the most common type in the Emilia Romagna region, and they are mostly C system with normal 6 row Stradella basses. I have seen accordions with modenese basses (both PA and CBA) for sale on Italian websites, but would reckon theyll now only be built as one-off special orders.

I wasted a good few years trying to work out why the bassi modenese was peculiar to that area, and why it seemed to merely be a copy of the Belgian system. I believe it isnt quite, as Ive read that modenese basses have the row of thirds in the third rather than the first row. I also couldnt work out why they played French accordions with the treble couplers on the rear in that part of Italy. Some time later I read about Italians from Emilia Romagna moving to Belgium in considerable numbers to work in the coal mines, and they took their accordions with them. Whilst Ill probably never know if Im correct, my assumption now is that the Belgian bass system is a copy of the bassi modenese, and the French copied Italian built CBAs with couplers on the rear, as they prefer in parts of Emilia Romagna.

After I had solved the issue to my own satisfaction I had to deal with the fact as to why the Italians playing Italian built Stoccos, Ropas, Crosios etc. refer to those with couplers on the rear as sistema francese. The truth dawned with that one when I realised there are now more accordions of that specification in France than in Italy. It is the preferred version in France, but the particular arrangement with couplers on the rear was devised in Italy. Some makers who had no connection with Castelfidardo made them that way, and that was it. A least I hope it is, as I cannot be bothered trying to work it all out again.

Here is Mr Donadelli doing what he does best. Italian box, French music, Belgian bass stolen from Modena, and any other complicated permutations you can think of. If you listen carefully you might just hear his Italian accent in the music, but dont tell him in case he stops playing French waltzes.

 
Great tone....fabulous fresh breezy feel....wwow
 
Thanks all for responding (and the clips): all good!<EMOJI seq="1f642">?</EMOJI><EMOJI seq="1f44d">?</EMOJI>
 
Thought Id post this clip of Gigi Stok playing an Italian musette number named Monello. Italian musette does exist but is not so well known as the French version. One of the main exponents of the style was Carlo Venturi from Bologna, as mentioned by member Jozz. Sadly Venturi died very young indeed, although his tunes are revered by modern Italian players. In Gigi Stoks home area there were other local styles played on accordions with musette tuning. Ive gone into those before and if anybody is interested Google Filuzzi and Liscio.

Hopefully this clip will demonstrate the Italian style of playing waltzes with those big long bellows pulls and pushes. The waltz is similar to French offerings of the day, but the slower tempo and different attack of the Italian playing cuts through in spades.

About 0.36 in the clip the musette sound is near enough identical to the really old fashioned musette when it was played in France on accordions with Italian tuning. They seem to have sharpened it up a fair bit in the 50s/60s, and it is a matter of personal opinion whether that move was better for the music or not.



As a bonus heres Daniele Donadelli playing the Italian valzer, Scabroso, without any hint of French in it. Sorry for the poor picture quality, and I hope his playing makes up for it. Youll hear him making good use of that bassi modenese at various points.

 
I do like this Danielle Donadelli dude...though I prefer the tone in the first link you posted.... Some player.. Thanks
 
losthobos post_id=65526 time=1546974410 user_id=729 said:
I do like this Danielle Donadelli dude...though I prefer the tone in the first link you posted.... Some player.. Thanks

Hi Terry,

That old 50s Crosio is definitely a belter. It has more of a French sound than the Lucchini, which is a nice box nevertheless.

Good luck with your Piermaria sale. I would have been interested but I bought an old Cavagnolo last year, and I think it will be my last one now.
 
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