Heaven or hell?

[Glenn]

Is this the piano accordionist's version of heaven or is it hell?
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[barkis]

This should work like a free bass but with bigger buttons. It is probably difficult to use the thumb on the left side on the same way as on the right side.

 

[Deleted member 48]

The left hand free basses are in frontal position, very difficult to reach.

Earlier examples displayed lateral basses, like here:
http://www.bandonion.info/solo,146.htm

The Hand-Harmonium by Gerl, see other examples in the photo gallery on this website.

The lateral basses are easier to reach for the left hand fingers, but there is no simple solution for the angle or twisting of the left hand.

 

[Deleted member 48]

this PA shows lateral basses
http://www.bandonion.info/solo,220.htm

 

[Deleted member 48]

the problem is the eternal dilemma: ease of comfort for the left hand thumb, or priority to the left under arm to be firmly pushed against the left side of the accordion body...

If you change the anglo for better playing of the left hand thumb, you create a "gap" between the left under arm and the body of the accordion...

 

[Deleted member 48]

This accordionist proposes the best compromise to this problem in a You Tube video


Steps in the bass on the accordion (Øivind Farmen)

The angle for the left hand (thumb) has been adapted on the instrument itself.

 

[barkis]

Interesting bandonion-site there! Saw some new stuff I've never seen before.

 

[Sarah]

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[goldtopia]

Its in one of my accordion museum books. It was made as an accordion for pianist thinking it would be easier to learn to play but it quickly fell out of favour as being too difficult to control the bellows at the same time.

 

[barkis]

I thought I had seen everything in accordion already

 

[Zevy]

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[Anyanka]

Are there any freebass CBAs with "proper" buttons in the bass?

 

[george garside]

having a chunk of piano keyboard on the left should not be any more difficult for an experienced piano player than is the right hand on a piano box. The only fundamental difference to playing a piano is just the same on both ends of an accordion i.e. the keyboard is vertical rather than horizontal - but its otherwise the same! - so if a piano keyboard can be played on the right hand end there is absolutely no reason why the same should not apply on the left hand end.

Having said that I personaly would not want one as having been brought up on stradella I havn't a clue as to the playing of left hand piano

george

 

[Pippa]

I think I'd like to have a go!

 

[barkis]

Are there any freebass CBAs with "proper" buttons in the bass?

Interesting Q.
Why are the left side buttons smaller? To be able to reach more of them without having to move the hand too far?

 

[simonking]

having a chunk of piano keyboard on the left should not be any more difficult for an experienced piano player than is the right hand on a piano box. The only fundamental difference to playing a piano is just the same on both ends of an accordion i.e. the keyboard is vertical rather than horizontal - but its otherwise the same! - so if a piano keyboard can be played on the right hand end there is absolutely no reason why the same should not apply on the left hand end.

Having said that I personaly would not want one as having been brought up on stradella I havn't a clue as to the playing of left hand piano

george

You're forgetting that the left hand is strapped in awkwardly and the thumb is probably useless, so I think standard piano technique and crossing your fingers over etc. would go pretty much out of the window here!

 

[Glenn]

I think you are right Simon. The strap will be a real issue.


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[jarvo]

having a chunk of piano keyboard on the left should not be any more difficult for an experienced piano player than is the right hand on a piano box. The only fundamental difference to playing a piano is just the same on both ends of an accordion i.e. the keyboard is vertical rather than horizontal - but its otherwise the same! - so if a piano keyboard can be played on the right hand end there is absolutely no reason why the same should not apply on the left hand end.

Having said that I personaly would not want one as having been brought up on stradella I havnt a clue as to the playing of left hand piano

george

Youre forgetting that the left hand is strapped in awkwardly and the thumb is probably useless, so I think standard piano technique and crossing your fingers over etc. would go pretty much out of the window here!

If you developed a strap which allowed the forearm to do the pulling and pushing it could work .....not as fast as a piano perhaps ...but it would be fun finding out !!

 

[george garside]

the bass end strap should be roughly where a wath would be worn on the wrist so the fingers come down tip first on the buttons, keys or whatevers . the thumb could then be well over the edge of the bass end instead of hanging around in the region of the air button that is only required at start of finish of playing. 9 this of course would only apply to piano and continental boxes as on a diatonic the thumb is fully occupied with the air button throughout the proceedings


george

 

[jarvo]

the bass end strap should be roughly where a wath would be worn on the wrist so the fingers come down tip first on the buttons, keys or whatevers . the thumb could then be well over the edge of the bass end instead of hanging around in the region of the air button that is only required at start of finish of playing. 9 this of course would only apply to piano and continental boxes as <SIZE size="200">on a diatonic the thumb is fully occupied with the air button throughout the proceedings


george

...oh ...am I missing something here ? What purpose is served by the air button ? I am not using it all the time on my Castagnari Single Row (love it btw)...should I be? Sorry to go off thread but mmmmm I just saw this ....we can take it elsewhere ....I understand the principles of the in/out tone changes as per diatonic harps.....is this why I sometimes have to press the button and pull the bellows fully open as I run out of bellow...?? Should I let air in more regularly ?

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