different playing techniques

[Deleted member 48]

Yet another video showing a different playing technique for the accordina

c-system accordina

This way the right hand thumb can be used at all time.
Left hand thumb seems to be used for holding and supporting the accordina, preventing it from falling. Would like to see this wood model with a mouthpiece on top + a little hand or fingerstrap in the middle left side for firmly holding the accordina.

 

[TomBR]

Whilst I respect your enthusiasm Stephen, my purely personal opinion is that as a mouth blown instrument the place for accordina discussions is somewhere like melodicaworld.com.

Some people here may be keen on harmoniums, which share characteristics with piano accordion, as do melodicas, but this forum is about accordions.

 

[george garside]

indeed!
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[JIM D.]

Ditto George: But in a way you must understand that the performance on these limited instruments is excellent. Just imagine what they could accomplish if they could afford to buy an accordion. :lol: {} :lol:

 

[debra]

I hold my (Marcel Dreux) accordina with the left hand but keep it higher up so the keyboard is almost horizontal. I can easily use all fingers of the right hand for playing so the same fingering as with the accordion (when using only three rows).
The accordina is typically a "sidekick" for CBA players. Many use the accordina for one or two songs during a concert and so do I. We (my quintet ARTE) are recording our first CD and on 3 out of the 15 songs I'm using the accordina. Despite using an accordina we call ourselfves just an accordion quintet. The accordina is absolutely not a melodica (and costs way more than a melodica). It's like having an extra register switch on the accordion for a very different (much brighter) sound. So I do not see any issue in discussing the accordina here.

 

[smdc66]

Whilst I respect your enthusiasm Stephen, my purely personal opinion is that as a mouth blown instrument the place for accordina discussions is somewhere like melodicaworld.com.

or as well as that or instead of that - can this thread be moved to pub chat as i believe we can chat about anything there (within the forum guidelines of course ) as this accordina topic may have been mis-posted in the wrong section :idea:

 

[TomBR]

The accordina is typically a sidekick for CBA players. Many use the accordina for one or two songs during a concert and so do I. We (my quintet ARTE) are recording our first CD and on 3 out of the 15 songs Im using the accordina. Despite using an accordina we call ourselfves just an accordion quintet. The accordina is absolutely not a melodica (and costs way more than a melodica). Its like having an extra register switch on the accordion for a very different (much brighter) sound. So I do not see any issue in discussing the accordina here.

How many PA players also play piano or organ? That doesnt make those instruments into accordions.

I appreciate that the CBA keyboard is quite a specialised, interest in many countries, although more widely used in others, so a forum inhabited by CBA players does expand naturally to include the accordina.

Would it be possible for our kind and generous site owners to add an Other free reeds section?

In the meantime, is it fair to ask that where a topic is accordina specific, as Stephens opening post is, then that should always be stated in the topic title, for the sake of everyone who comes here to discuss accordions, not accordinas.

 

[Russ]

I dont see why it is a problem. This forum is pretty much on topic so if you spend a minute of your time reading about the harmonium, melodica, acordina, or harmonica, and you are not interested in the topic don't follow the thread. Best way to kill a thread is to ignore it.

 

[losthobos]

Better to be inclusive rather than exclusive in my eye...besides Galliano plays a mean accordiana

 

[barkis]

than inclusive

than exclusive, you mean?

I see no problem with the topic of this thread.

 

[Jim2010]

I would like to hear more about the various techniques used by accordinists. For example, do most people think of it as simply the right hand side of a three-row CBA accordion or (especially if side mouthpiece) is there special accordina fingering/technique? I am waiting for the arrival of a Marcel Dreux accordina with and end blown mouthpiece. Based on youtube videos, most people use the orIginal side blown mouthpience. I imagine there must be pros and cons. Without any instuction books that I am aware of, forums like this one are about the only way to get information.

 

[Deleted member 48]

I support the opinion to be inclusive, regarding the accordina , as it is a sidekick or second instrument to some CBA accordion players. And not only in France, the accordina is going worldwide (eg Asia).
Moreover there are some commone elements in the playing techniques for accordina with chromatic button accordions.
It's true the accordina misses the bellows, so I agree the topic could be transferred to another section of the forum, eg the pub or a free reed family section.

But it would be not effective to create a whole new "accordina forum" website.
Eg if persons like me who's interested in all sorts of free reed music instruments, have to become a members of all the separate forums, like an accordion forum, melodeon forum, concertina forum , harmonium forum, mouth harp forum, accordina forum, bandoneon forum, steirisch harmonika forum, ... I could name many more.
.. this is a lot of work...

I agree, the accordina isn't the core business of an accordion forum.
But one should be carefull not to be too exclusive, otherwise you have to start defining "accordion".
For instance, there are many hybrids in the accordion family.
Where would you classify the "gaita ponto", the "Jimmy shand accordion", the bisonoric accordions with a unisonoric bass or vice versa, unisonoric accordions with a bisonoric bass. Would you exclude them here, and direct these to the melodeon forum?
The melodeon family also has many hybrids in it's family.

The accordion history is packed with the creation of hybrids.

And strictly speaking, an accordion does not need bellows. There are many types of "Blasakkordeons", only mouth blown "melodicas" with 2 or more basses.
You could look for arguments like the accordina is a bit of a "free bass CBA mouth blown free bass... accordion", but you'll have to form the chords yourself, just as on a "free bass accordion".
A "free bass accordion" is it an accordion (with prefixed chords) or not?