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I'm new to the fascinating world of accordions. Chromatic keyboards have interested me for some time (theoretically), starting from when I tried to learn the piano. Now I realise that some accordions use such things - interesting... Forgive me if this subject has been done to death already; I've scratched around in the forum, but haven't found very much. So here's the question...

What are the relative merits of the B- and C-systems?

From my perspective of complete ignorance, B seems a little more friendly, but I'm not sure why I think that. (It's all very confusing...)
I’m late to the discussion, but I’d say to go with whichever system connects you to the most players who play the kind of music you want to play. In Western Europe/U.S. that’s probably C… in the Baltics and eastern Europe, B. Play what your potential teachers, inspirations play.
 

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Here in the south island of New Zealand (population a bit over 1 million), there seems more-or-less zero chance of coming across a CBA for sale, and I don't suppose teachers are any more common. I think there's one specialist (piano) accordion supplier in Auckland, a one-hour 'plane ride away... So, whether I prefer B- or C- system seems academic, and equally problematical. From previous threads, it appears that learning B-system fingering (and C-system too, for all I know) is a DIY task anyway. Perhaps I should give up and take up knitting...

However, before I rush out and get wool, etc., any suggestions about how someone in the third world might obtain a quality CBA (or bayan, not sure about the terminology) without having to sell the farm?

I realise I'm too old to get anything like proficient, and you might think quality is wasted on a beginner, but I would wish for a quality instrument so that its value is retained for the time when it has to be sold (by my survivors...).
 
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I had the same feeling in a rural part of the USA: it felt like no matter what I chose to play, I was going to be importing it from far away and self-teaching, and on that basis I wound up with the B system. But it hasn't been an impossible task, and I've been keeping copious notes, with a view to someday writing something for others who try to do the same.

It also turned out that this summer I met not one but two local folks who play CBA, living with 25km of me, a radius that encompasses perhaps 5,000 people. (Both C system - ha. And neither teaches, but they are both friendly, and as excited as I am to discover someone else nearby.)

I suspect obtaining a quality instrument is going to come down to picking a shop you trust and relying on them to ship it well. Even if I was prepared to drive ~800km to either of the two nearest big showrooms, I'd still be able to count the CBAs in stock on my fingers.
 
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Here in the south island of New Zealand (population a bit over 1 million), there seems more-or-less zero chance of coming across a CBA for sale, and I don't suppose teachers are any more common. I think there's one specialist (piano) accordion supplier in Auckland, a one-hour 'plane ride away... So, whether I prefer B- or C- system seems academic, and equally problematical. From previous threads, it appears that learning B-system fingering (and C-system too, for all I know) is a DIY task anyway. Perhaps I should give up and take up knitting...

However, before I rush out and get wool, etc., any suggestions about how someone in the third world might obtain a quality CBA (or bayan, not sure about the terminology) without having to sell the farm?

I realise I'm too old to get anything like proficient, and you might think quality is wasted on a beginner, but I would wish for a quality instrument so that its value is retained for the time when it has to be sold (by my survivors...).
Don't know if helpful or not but I'm in UK and have a high quality C system CBA for sale ....I know long distance but I also know Emilio Allodi sold another of my CBAs from here to Australia as it was the only way buyer could get a decent one.....
Feel free to message me if you want to consider this route....hope that's helpful...Terry
 

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I too live in a rural area (in Australia).
Over the years, I've met several old timers who've moonlighted playing piano accordion on river boats, weddings, and old-time, 50/50, 60/40 dances in community halls (people travel hundreds of kilometres to attend)).
These guys and gals would never be considered PA virtuosos perhaps, but they can belt out toe tapping and romantic dance music ( often jointly with other instrumentalist and singers), crack jokes, tell tales and hold an audience as all round entertainers.
Almost all of them began learning their instrument as a pre-teen and almost all were taught by local piano teachers, an option not readily available to CBA afficiandos.
People will say a PA isn't a piano, but they're closer than a piano and a CBA, which can be handy at times, judging by some of the posts in this thread!πŸ™‚
Even now, piano teachers willing to double as PA teachers are still accessible in my locality.πŸ™‚
CBA, not so much 😐
For example:
 
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Never give up hope @KiwiSqueezer, one day your button accordion dreams will come true. So, finish up with that row of knit one, purl one, and put down those knitting needles. Send Grayson Masefield a PM. He could teach button accordion or will know someone who does if he is too busy being a world class piano accordionist 🎹.

@losthobos has even offered you a CBA too. Wow, things are looking better already πŸŒ…

...you are going to finish my jumper after - right? :ROFLMAO:
 

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Have a look At "leboncoin" the french e bay as it were. There are loads of beautiful secondhand accordeons on there.
If u are serious i could help u select a few within your budget and requirements.ie voices etc.
Pm me if u are interested.
Godgi
 
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