$20,000 12 bass?

[Caps]

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Guy has this listed on marketplace in north Carolina for $20,000. I queried him to see if he meant $200. He said that it was appraised on Antiques Roadshow as rare and antique and stated "I know what I have"

 

[PeterF]

That's hilarious! Good luck to him. Even $200 might be a little high for that.

 

[SteveBox]

I think he is right about this. It's very rare for someone to pay $20K for an old 12 bass accordion.

It would be interesting to see that episode of Antiques Roadshow. You can search for things they have appraised, but an accordion is not listed. They appraised a Charles Wheatstone Concertina once, for far less than this.

There is a warning about imposters doing Roadshow events.

 

[Mr Mark]

Out of what looks like 20,000+ listings this person has on marketplace, this accordion might actually be the most valuable item there!

 

[Caps]

Ha. Looks like he pulled his ad. Can't imagine why!!!

 

[JerryPH]

It's back. He's looking for the king of suckers... lol

 

[JerryPH]

Ha. Looks like he pulled his ad. Can't imagine why!!!

He did not pull it, he blocked you...like he did me... LOL


That poor misguided soul. Someone who's not blocked should send him the link to this thread... lol

 

[Ventura]

the really sad thing is all these paper tigers have found
posting tons of sucker items and leaving them up ad-infinitum
is a piece of cake.. requires little maintenance, and reeling
in some wealthy sucker of a damnfool collector is easy to
wait for.. even if it takes 5 years..

there are actually a LOT of sucker accordions on Craigslist eBay and
other marketplace sites in the USA that HAVE been listed and
relisted for YEARS and yes every once in awhile they DO
catch a sucker

because people with limited actual knowledge get "hot" for
an item when their imaginations expand on the bullshit
listing descriptions and it gets all blown up in their heads..

sadly, there are ENOUGH SUCKERS LIKE THIS to have convinced
these crooks that this is time well spent on their part..

there is a REAL MARKET for sucker accordions

there is also a real market for sucker Guitars.. and because of
years of a constant barrage of wildly exaggerated sales listings
for so many musical instruments here in the USA we also now
see absolutely ridiculous prices on old cheapo low-end instruments
like (rare, original Les Paul Copy) or a Hagstrom or Galanti or Crumar
guitar (which do look cool, but were never expensive or particularly
special)

absolutely ANYTIME you see the word "Rare" in an ad, you should
run away as fast as you can

absolutely anytime you see the phrase "should be an easy repair"
you should run away as fast as you can

and probably anytime you see "Hand made reeds" on an ad
that is NOT from a known accordionist or accordion shop,
what should you do boys and girls ???

you should run away as fast as you can

hell, i see "Double tone chamber" and i delete the page..
anyone who has to embellish the obvious is looking for
a sucker.. you all know by now what a tone chamber is in
pretty much any expensive worth owning accordion built after
1960 ? right ? and how many reedsets are in the chamber ? right ?

i mean, you all DO know girls have two too ?

does an advertisement for a blow up sex doll need to
claim excitedly that it is Double breasted as if it
were something special or unusual ?

sheesh !@#$%^&*

ohh, and finally, when you see an ad that drops the name of
Giovanni Gola or Silvio Scandalli or Settimo Soprani when
the accordion for sale is NOT an actual Gola or Scandalli or
Soprani.. and most especially when the accordion is an old
BoatAncha of a decrepit organ-accordion
RUN SCREAING FROM THE BUILDING

 

[Tom]

Not to mention sucker politicians. Just sayin’.

 

[SteveBox]

absolutely ANYTIME you see the word "Rare" in an ad, you should
run away as fast as you can

I have never understood the marketing logic of why claiming something is "rare" or as in this case "very rare" would compel someone to overpay for it. Being "rare" only works if there is a high demand for an item in short supply. Old junker accordions are not hard to find.

If this guy really believes he had this appraised for $20K by Antiques Roadshow, he may have been taken in by one of those fake Roadshow events that PBS warns about.

 

[Caps]

Fake Road Show Events? Wow. Didn't know there were such things.
Rare and Antique = no one wants it because it is old and broke!
I kind of feel sorry for the guy. His posts on market place were tons of car parts. Don't think he has a clue about anything musical.
Hope he hasn't started
spending the money he intends to get for his rare antique accordion.

 

[SteveBox]

Fake Road Show Events? Wow. Didn't know there were such things.

I never heard of them either, before seeing that warning on the PBS website. I suppose scammers will try anything. You probably have to pay (the real Roadshow doesn't charge), but then you go home very happy with your appraisal.

 

[JerryPH]

That's what I think happened. Paying someone to give you an unrealistic value is just being... gullible.

 

[Alan Sharkis]

the really sad thing is all these paper tigers have found
posting tons of sucker items and leaving them up ad-infinitum
is a piece of cake.. requires little maintenance, and reeling
in some wealthy sucker of a damnfool collector is easy to
wait for.. even if it takes 5 years..

there are actually a LOT of sucker accordions on Craigslist eBay and
other marketplace sites in the USA that HAVE been listed and
relisted for YEARS and yes every once in awhile they DO
catch a sucker

because people with limited actual knowledge get "hot" for
an item when their imaginations expand on the bullshit
listing descriptions and it gets all blown up in their heads..

sadly, there are ENOUGH SUCKERS LIKE THIS to have convinced
these crooks that this is time well spent on their part..

there is a REAL MARKET for sucker accordions

there is also a real market for sucker Guitars.. and because of
years of a constant barrage of wildly exaggerated sales listings
for so many musical instruments here in the USA we also now
see absolutely ridiculous prices on old cheapo low-end instruments
like (rare, original Les Paul Copy) or a Hagstrom or Galanti or Crumar
guitar (which do look cool, but were never expensive or particularly
special)

absolutely ANYTIME you see the word "Rare" in an ad, you should
run away as fast as you can

absolutely anytime you see the phrase "should be an easy repair"
you should run away as fast as you can

and probably anytime you see "Hand made reeds" on an ad
that is NOT from a known accordionist or accordion shop,
what should you do boys and girls ???

you should run away as fast as you can

hell, i see "Double tone chamber" and i delete the page..
anyone who has to embellish the obvious is looking for
a sucker.. you all know by now what a tone chamber is in
pretty much any expensive worth owning accordion built after
1960 ? right ? and how many reedsets are in the chamber ? right ?

i mean, you all DO know girls have two too ?

does an advertisement for a blow up sex doll need to
claim excitedly that it is Double breasted as if it
were something special or unusual ?

sheesh !@#$%^&*

ohh, and finally, when you see an ad that drops the name of
Giovalli Gola or Silvio Scandalli or Settimo Soprani when
the accordion for sale is NOT an actual Gola or Scandalli or
Soprani.. and most especially when the accordion is an old
BoatAncha of a decrepit organ-accordion
RUN SCREAING FROM THE BUILDING

Why run and scream when a quiet, simple, “No, thanks.” will do?

 

[dak]

I have never understood the marketing logic of why claiming something is "rare" or as in this case "very rare" would compel someone to overpay for it. Being "rare" only works if there is a high demand for an item in short supply. Old junker accordions are not hard to find.

If this guy really believes he had this appraised for $20K by Antiques Roadshow, he may have been taken in by one of those fake Roadshow events that PBS warns about.

How does this scam work? "We'll appraise your antiquities for a mere 0.5% of their value"? Because there does not appear to be a motivator for such absurd numbers unless the absurdity itself is profitable.

 

[JerryPH]

How does this scam work? "We'll appraise your antiquities for a mere 0.5% of their value"? Because there does not appear to be a motivator for such absurd numbers unless the absurdity itself is profitable.

Simpler than that... to get in you pay, they pocket the money, while there you get appraised for ridiculous values and of course, no one from there makes any purchases.

 

[debra]

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Guy has this listed on marketplace in north Carolina for $20,000. I queried him to see if he meant $200. He said that it was appraised on Antiques Roadshow as rare and antique and stated "I know what I have"

In an era where someone pays way more than this for a banana taped to a wall with duct tape... nothing surprises me.

 

[dak]

Simpler than that... to get in you pay, they pocket the money, while there you get appraised for ridiculous values and of course, no one from there makes any purchases.

But they could equally well give more realistic appraisals for the same amount of money then? Or does it help to draw in more people by word of mouth when the numbers are high? I just imagine that if you are in that "business" for a while, you'd have opportunity to get better at it. And why be deliberately bad if it isn't paying better?

 

[Alan Sharkis]

In an era where someone pays way more than this for a banana taped to a wall with duct tape... nothing surprises me.

I almost sent the guy a "You gotta be kidding" message, and then asked myself why bother?

 

[JerryPH]

But they could equally well give more realistic appraisals for the same amount of money then? Or does it help to draw in more people by word of mouth when the numbers are high? I just imagine that if you are in that "business" for a while, you'd have opportunity to get better at it. And why be deliberately bad if it isn't paying better?

Their goal is not to be anywhere near honest or knowledgeable. How good do you think anyone is going to be at appraisals of anything if heir goal is to make money via scamming people? They also likely charge per appraisal too.

Would you pay someone $20 if the value of the item you just brought in and knew nothing about was $10 vs "oh, this is amazingly special and rare, the value is at least $20,000 if not more, I'd place an insurance value on it of at least $25,000..."

Scammers don't care to be good at anything else BUT scamming people, because they are not an honest business.

Just sad at how money hungry some crooks are.