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The Giulietti Sound

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As promised to Dingo, FFingers and
Here is the first installment of thir requested accordion brand sounds

Years ago when I was in Florida I received an email from a fellow from the Netherlands by the name of Sander Neijnens who spent considerable time searching for me from time to time....trying all email addresses as he found them. This time it worked and we made contact. He was a Giulietti lover and owner and had decided to write a book on the Giulietti Accordion sound and he searched for me because of my close connection with Julio Giulietti as a friend and accordion designer and whatever else he thought. We had several email discussions before he requested and received from me all the information he seeked and included most everything we discussed in is book...enough to also include an article on me as I wrote it, and my relationship with Julio and his family. The main topic of his interest was the question of the Giulietti sound being different from other accordions. As with many, his focus was on the reeds only.

I stumbled on this information looking for something else in my files,,,,and thought you would appreciate reading a few contents from the book. It’s really a 95 page book with an included CD by various Giulietti artists. If you are interested in acquiring it, it’s labeled THE GIULIETTI SOUND by Sander Neijnens © 2008 ISBN: 978-90-805424-6-4

Sanders begins his book………..
“Much love went into those instruments”
At the beginning of December 2007 I start another search for Steve Navoyosky. In one of my
searches I discover an email address that I don’t know yet. Immediately I write a new request
for information about Julio Giulietti and within a couple of hours I get a reply. In the following
days a lively correspondence starts up.
Steve Navoyosky (b. 1935) started playing the accordion when he was four years old. But in his music college years he learned how to play other musical instruments, like the piano, clarinet, and eventually the organ, vibraphone, saxophone and oboe. While working as a studio session musician and music teacher, his main activities comprised of arranging and composing.
Subsequently, near the end of his performing career, he opened a store for the selling of accordions and related materials as well as the repair, tuning, and building of accordions. Steve Navoyosky and Julio Giulietti already knew each other for a long time before their first ‘face-to-face’ meeting in the beginning of the 1980s, resulting in a long lasting friendship based on their shared love of the accordion. “Before he took over his father’s company in 1950, Julio worked as a professional accordion player in New York City, using ‘Dark Eyes’ (Charles Magnante arrangement) as his theme or opener. Based on this experience he was after certain things that he had desired as a musician.
Keep in mind he was a reed maker and understood the properties involved in developing a design and specifications that granted a specific sound. When he took over the company he spent considerable time investigating the factories to develop what he had in mind. Serenelli was the first. And John Molinari was one of the first accordionists to play this instrument. But Julio wasn’t satisfied with the quality, so after some years he changed to Zero Sette. That factory had skills unlike any other in Italy. Julio won the NAMM Fashion Award in 1953 for the design of an instrument built by them.
The Giulietti sound is mainly due to the quality of the reeds. The reeds made under the watchful eye of Elio Guidobaldi were excellent. But the reeds for the cheaper models were still high quality. The reeds made by Elio Guidobaldi have a ‘flute’ sound and that was done by reed design. Technology will never produce reeds like these, because machinery can’t see and think, nor have that feel for adjusting to conditions. It’s things like this that make the Giulietti accordions what they are. Much love went into those instruments and they became the Cadillac of the industry. But Julio was a good businessman so he also stayed friends with other factories.
Besides Zero Sette there were Nilux, Brandoni and Guerrini. Nilux for instance built the Classic127 and the Orchestra models.”
A very special model is the four reed Traviata. The design of this instrument was based on accordions from the 1930s with knurled keyboard ends and decorated with rhinestones. The tuning also differs from the other Giulietti’s: the three reed musette is unique for this model. Steve Navoyosky advised Julio Giulieti to build this model for polka players. Afterwards a likewise, but cheaper, model was introduced named the Polka King. To end with, there are the instruments that were made for the accordion orchestra. These instruments don’t have a bass mechanism, but only a keyboard. They were made in a range of Bass, Cello, Clarinet, Violin and Piccolo.

As stated previously, Giulietti introduced the accordion with the free bass in the United States in 1960. Guido Guidobaldi told me that the system was inspired by the Russian bayans, that already had the free bass for some time. Steve Navoyosky tells me that there was also another example.
“I have a photograph of an Italian accordion made about one hundred years ago with the stradella bass plus three rows for the free bass. Julio also owned such an instrument. Whereas the Russian bayan could transform from stradella to free bass, Julio brought back the stradella plus three rows previously established at the turn of the century. Furthermore the lower basses were placed on the top of the instrument and the higher ones on the bottom, while they are situated just the other way around on the bayan. Julio did so, following advice from the Danish accordionist Mogens Ellegaard to the accordion manufacturers, who felt this reversal would
ease the low note playing.
It was difficult to maneuver when you had to use the free bass on these instruments as your hand had to go farther and bend at the wrist. And there wasn’t a companion method book developed, so the accordionist who bought one was left to learn it. But in my opinion the biggest mistake was the reversal of the free bass range compared to the bayan, for it became illogical to sight read music in the opposite direction of the music before you, especially when playing two notes or more.
In the 1970s came the transformer models as well as the models with just the free bass. I
designed for instance the ‘Italia’, a mahogany wood housing student model with five rows of free bass following the Russian system. The colors of the treble piano keys – and the bassetti buttons – were reversed, to distinguish the instrument from the accordion with the stradella basses. Julio spoke with the Italian government to have Zero Sette build two hundred of them in order to elevate the manufacturing factories in Italy, with these bassetti’s going to California and given to young students in accordion schools. Julio’s plan was to stimulate interest in the bassetti without purchase cost, but the government negated the idea, so this model was never built.
Unfortunately, there appeared to be no demand for the other models with ‘just’ free bass. Julio always said that to build so many beginners bassetti’s was a big mistake. On many of these instruments the free bass sections were later on replaced with stradella bass sections, so they could still be sold.
While sales continued to dwindle, Julio never gave up trying to convince anyone he met that the accordion was the greatest instrument for it could do so much and be a part of any musical venue. But down deep he was hurt over the decline of it and music in general. As I would be encouraging toward the future in closing our discussions, I felt his hurt whenever he answered ....‘Let’s hope so’.
Around 1990 Julio asked me to take over the company. He wanted to continue the Giulietti spirit and drive to make the best accordion possible, but I had to decline. The family made the offer this time when Julio was sick, but after scrutinizing the situation once more, I had to decline again. My reasons were based on my ongoing business as a musician, arranger, composer and educator. And I had my mother to take care of in her declining years. Furthermore the remaining stock was not conducive for future sales for it consisted mainly of small free bass accordions.

Besides that Julio had stocked new instruments with dealers, but he didn’t have an inventory. I would have to do my own inventory and I would have to make my own deals with Zero Sette and the dealers. So, I made the decision in the light of the times.”

That Giulietti sound I promised you? Yes, the reeds do provide their portion to the sound but it's mostly connected to the design of the treble section.....and the woods used and the resonance created by the body. Consider this: If you placed those reed blocks on a studio bellows......and sounded those reeds......would they sound like a Giulietti accordion?

More on this brand sound later with Excelsior, Dallape', and the other requested by my curious friends...........
 
As I wrote before part of the characteristic Giulietti sound comes from the design of the grille, which has a large oval cutout but is otherwise closed. This grille design works very well for cassotto accordions as it allows the sound coming from the cassotto to resonate even more under the grille while the sound from the reeds not in cassotto to come out more directly. Sadly this design doesn't work so well for accordions that have no cassotto. They have the reeds for the white keys under the open oval of the grille and those for the black keys under the closed part (and the register mechanism, creating an uneven timbre between white and black keys.
 
As I wrote before part of the characteristic Giulietti sound comes from the design of the grille, which has a large oval cutout but is otherwise closed. This grille design works very well for cassotto accordions as it allows the sound coming from the cassotto to resonate even more under the grille while the sound from the reeds not in cassotto to come out more directly. Sadly this design doesn't work so well for accordions that have no cassotto. They have the reeds for the white keys under the open oval of the grille and those for the black keys under the closed part (and the register mechanism, creating an uneven timbre between white and black keys.
In either case, the white keys produce a stringent quality creating an uneven timbre between keyboard banks be they cassotto or not....for the treble couplers interfer somewhat with that sound projection . That has been since day one with every brand having this condition.
 
Thanks for the interesting history about Giulietti. I visited Julio in the late 80's when he was in Westfield, Massachusetts, and purchased my first new piano accordion from him. (I eventually sold it and switched to CBA). He was a very interesting person to chat with, very passionate about the accordion. "It's the greatest instrument in the world!" Of course, by this time he was having his instruments built in Italy. He lamented that he could not get the accordion companies in Italy to listen to his ideas for improvements. He thought socialism in Italy had ruined the country by giving the workers guaranteed jobs, so they had no incentive to try anything new. "Ahh, I don't need them", he said, then he proclaimed "America... It's the greatest country in the world".

Anyway, he put me on his mailing list for accordion dealers and teachers, even though I was neither. The story about his efforts to sell the small beginner's Bassettis reminded me of these mailings I frequently received promoting this instrument. I did get the impression that it must have been a hard sell to convince music educators to recommend these to their students, but at least he tried. I found some of this old material that I had saved and have attached a few pages.
 

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Thanks for responding to me and revealing to everyone reading this thread what tragedies happen to those who make every effort to maintain culture survival. I traveled much with him.....Canada..to...California.......accordion contests everywhere. I adjudicated many of them while he sought dealers and sales. I was a dealer and I also setup dealerships. He was a good man. A great friend of mine and especially the accordion. If a company would copy one of our models or designs etc. it would not bother him if he had a patent and they infringed upon it. He would say.......if it helps continue the accordion that's O.K. It bothered me however as it wasn't right. That's why you see another USA accordion brand having similar designs through time and they also have taken his brand name and making accordions under his name.
 
Courtesy of Google street view, here is where I visited Julio in Westfield, Massachusetts, as it looks today. I presume this was his last place of business.
Yes, I spent much time there....at his home....and at restaurants always eating well. At times his son would be there at the table and naturally it was all Italian food---the best up there in Westfield. His son was a high position Jesuit priest........
That building brings back memories ........He would take me to one of the benches and asked if I could repair something there. Always.
 
Sad but true:
Ecclesiastes 9-11
"I returned, and saw under the sun, that the race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, neither yet bread to the wise, nor yet riches to the intelligent, nor yet favour to men of knowledge; but time and chance happeneth to them all."🤔🫤
 
Yes, I spent much time there....at his home....and at restaurants always eating well. At times his son would be there at the table and naturally it was all Italian food---the best up there in Westfield. His son was a high position Jesuit priest........
That building brings back memories ........He would take me to one of the benches and asked if I could repair something there. Always.
I think I visited Julio only twice, but one of those times I remember a friend of his stopping by the shop. Maybe that was you.
 
Sad but true:
Ecclesiastes 9-11
"I returned, and saw under the sun, that the race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, neither yet bread to the wise, nor yet riches to the intelligent, nor yet favour to men of knowledge; but time and chance happeneth to them all."🤔🫤

...or, as they say: "More by good luck than by good judgement" ;)
 
In either case, the white keys produce a stringent quality creating an uneven timbre between keyboard banks be they cassotto or not....for the treble couplers interfer somewhat with that sound projection . That has been since day one with every brand having this condition.
The problem with cassotto is that virtually all accordion manufacturers make the cassotto just not deep enough. The row of reeds that is closest to where the sound comes out is not deep enough in the cassotto and thus has a less mellow tone than the reed banks that are deeper inside. On all piano accordions the reeds that are not mellow enough are the black keys in the M (8') register. On button accordions with 3 blocks in cassotto it's the third row of buttons, in the M register and on button accordions with only 2 blocks in cassotto it is the third row and half of the second row. The effect is much more pronounced in large accordions with 3 blocks in cassotto than on any accordion with just 2 blocks in cassotto. The result of this arrangement is that many accordion players (and especially jazz players) prefer to always play in the L (16') register instead of M. And then they request to build accordions with keyboards that are extended towards the high notes...
The problem with different sound in non-cassotto accordions, caused by the treble couplers interfering with the sound projection is easily remedied by putting a strip of felt under the grille, on the "opposite" side of where the couplers are. Whether this helps completely still depends on the order of the reed banks. When you have L in the center and H on the extreme ends it really helps to even out the sound, compensating for the difference of the very sharp H sound of the white keys (furthest forward, away from the player's body) and the more mellow H sound of the black keys (under the treble couplers).
 
Thanks for the interesting history about Giulietti. I visited Julio in the late 80's when he was in Westfield, Massachusetts, and purchased my first new piano accordion from him. (I eventually sold it and switched to CBA). He was a very interesting person to chat with, very passionate about the accordion. "It's the greatest instrument in the world!" Of course, by this time he was having his instruments built in Italy. He lamented that he could not get the accordion companies in Italy to listen to his ideas for improvements. He thought socialism in Italy had ruined the country by giving the workers guaranteed jobs, so they had no incentive to try anything new. "Ahh, I don't need them", he said, then he proclaimed "America... It's the greatest country in the world".

Anyway, he put me on his mailing list for accordion dealers and teachers, even though I was neither. The story about his efforts to sell the small beginner's Bassettis reminded me of these mailings I frequently received promoting this instrument. I did get the impression that it must have been a hard sell to convince music educators to recommend these to their students, but at least he tried. I found some of this old material that I had saved and have attached a few pages.
Thanks for this fascinating bit of our history Steve! Unfortunately it doesn't seem to have worked out as Mr. Giulietti imagined, but really highlights the forward thinking behind the free bass. Conservative America, however, was not ready.......and may never be......
 
in keeping with our time honored tradition of Pop Songs suggested by our
chat discussions, i have running around in my head all morning now
"Me and Julio down by the School Yard"

we need an accordion with a Mama Pajama nameplate on the front
 
The problem with cassotto is that virtually all accordion manufacturers make the cassotto just not deep enough. The row of reeds that is closest to where the sound comes out is not deep enough in the cassotto and thus has a less mellow tone than the reed banks that are deeper inside. On all piano accordions the reeds that are not mellow enough are the black keys in the M (8') register. On button accordions with 3 blocks in cassotto it's the third row of buttons, in the M register and on button accordions with only 2 blocks in cassotto it is the third row and half of the second row. The effect is much more pronounced in large accordions with 3 blocks in cassotto than on any accordion with just 2 blocks in cassotto. The result of this arrangement is that many accordion players (and especially jazz players) prefer to always play in the L (16') register instead of M. And then they request to build accordions with keyboards that are extended towards the high notes...
The problem with different sound in non-cassotto accordions, caused by the treble couplers interfering with the sound projection is easily remedied by putting a strip of felt under the grille, on the "opposite" side of where the couplers are. Whether this helps completely still depends on the order of the reed banks. When you have L in the center and H on the extreme ends it really helps to even out the sound, compensating for the difference of the very sharp H sound of the white keys (furthest forward, away from the player's body) and the more mellow H sound of the black keys (under the treble couplers).
You're preaching to the choir on this one. The tone chamber has nothing to do with the cause of extended range for some players rather than use the M reed line. It has to do with the entire range needed to project the orchestral balance. L is better equipped to execute that scenario.....even though key extension is not vital. If you notice, those who seek to extend their keyboard are one of two player types.......Those doing Bach works....and those usually playing in the C tonality. But its really unnecessary for the true professional player.

Additionally. I'm glad you now understand why I always negated a tone chamber in my instruments and why I had Excelsior back in time to locate my reeds in the fashion I expressed previously (L in the center with H at each side).......plus utilizing a Masonite foundation instead of aluminum foundation plate...for a more alive resonant sound quality. Many accordion listeners believed I had a tone chamber from the results.
 
I’ve heard many of those ny excelsior symphony straight instruments with no chamber sound even more “buttery” especially with mute closed than cassotto ones. It would be cool to compare the reed configuration youre referring to.
I remember once on these boards a while back trying to figure out if jack emblow had a tone chamber excelsior symphony or not. Still not sure. But his sounded sweet.
 
I’ve heard many of those ny excelsior symphony straight instruments with no chamber sound even more “buttery” especially with mute closed than cassotto ones. It would be cool to compare the reed configuration youre referring to.
I remember once on these boards a while back trying to figure out if jack emblow had a tone chamber excelsior symphony or not. Still not sure. But his sounded sweet.
Jack Emblow. a great guy and a great musician. Still alive the last I checked. Yes, Jack had a tone chamber (Citation) and it was a doctored box and worked both chamber sounds as well as nonchambered sounds.. The next time you view Jack on U Tube, take note that his switches are not stock arranged. Those two middles are both lows......one in a tone chamber and the other out of the tone chamber.
Where are you located, btw?
 
Interesting!
Was the citation series anything special? Different reeds, better quality. I have one with the citation badge and it’s a very nice accordion.
Closest thing I could compare would be excelsiors van Damme 730/930 with the 2 bassoon options?
And I live in western ny state.
 
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