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Just to prove that you dont need a CBA to sound like Carlo Venturi. Check this one out.
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maugein96
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Yet another Italian player who doesn't play basses. The trend now also seems to have caught on in France and Belgium, particularly when there is an accompanying band. I'd never heard of this guy until I was looking in You Tube and found him by accident. I love the sound of his musette, seems typical of Stocco accordions.
The smallish red 4 row CBA on display behind him is an Excelsior, exactly the same as played by Carlo Venturi for a while, and might even have been his.
The smallish red 4 row CBA on display behind him is an Excelsior, exactly the same as played by Carlo Venturi for a while, and might even have been his.
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maugein96
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Thanks Glen.
You have ironed out something that was bothering me for a while now. I've never played accordion in a band, only guitar, and I wasn't very good at that either. I played surf and rock type music hiding my awful renditions behind mountains of reverb and echo. All I need to do now is find a band so that I can forget about the basses.
You have ironed out something that was bothering me for a while now. I've never played accordion in a band, only guitar, and I wasn't very good at that either. I played surf and rock type music hiding my awful renditions behind mountains of reverb and echo. All I need to do now is find a band so that I can forget about the basses.
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Or a duet at least - I play mostly bass instruments, and sometimes think I wouldn't mind being relieved of the treble side, so I could focus on something interesting.
Playing in a band is always a question of balance.
You cannot simply use the same voicings when you are playing together as other instruments will conflict and make the whole thing muddy to listen to.
Of course this doesn't mean you have to avoid the bass completely.
I imagine playing with just a guitar for instance you will need to provide the bass but perhaps not the rhythm aspect that solo accordion players create using the bass.
This really come with experience I guess.
You cannot simply use the same voicings when you are playing together as other instruments will conflict and make the whole thing muddy to listen to.
Of course this doesn't mean you have to avoid the bass completely.
I imagine playing with just a guitar for instance you will need to provide the bass but perhaps not the rhythm aspect that solo accordion players create using the bass.
This really come with experience I guess.
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When I play out, it's as a substitute for our regular accordion player for the Morris side; had one of those opportunities a week ago. The remainder of our meager instrumentation is a drum, and he was also out of commission - for which I was not altogether sorry, because he substantially drowns out the bass side that I've gone to some trouble over in practice at home.
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Anyone know where the music is for that. I really like it!
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maugein96
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Hi Guernseyman,
Here is the link to the Italian publisher:-
http://www.novalis-music.com/Prodotto.cfm?IdRaccolta=170
All of the sheet music is free. You need to download the PDF file entitled Spartiti and youll have it there. It is mixed in with some text containing history and photos of Carlo Venturis career.
If you click on the little windows with photos in them at the top of the page, each window will open up another batch of free scores. There must be more than 100 accordion titles included, most of them relating to compositions by Carlo Venturi. There are also MP3 samples for most of the tunes.
Im currently trying to learn Chimere on CBA. Like most of these more adventurous type of waltzes I have the ability to play them, but I have difficulty in committing the tunes to my head as they are a bit tricky in parts. I can work out notes and passages from the sheet music, but I cannot sight read in the true sense. I have to listen, then try and remember the tune, then go back and correct the bits Im playing wrong. The whole tune will normally take me about a month to nail down, unless I find that it is too difficult. I would place this one in the borderline category.
Every time I play the first bit, my head tells me Im playing Flambee Montalbanaise, and I am faltering a bit. Its a really nice waltz though, and I think it deserves special effort.
Here is the link to the Italian publisher:-
http://www.novalis-music.com/Prodotto.cfm?IdRaccolta=170
All of the sheet music is free. You need to download the PDF file entitled Spartiti and youll have it there. It is mixed in with some text containing history and photos of Carlo Venturis career.
If you click on the little windows with photos in them at the top of the page, each window will open up another batch of free scores. There must be more than 100 accordion titles included, most of them relating to compositions by Carlo Venturi. There are also MP3 samples for most of the tunes.
Im currently trying to learn Chimere on CBA. Like most of these more adventurous type of waltzes I have the ability to play them, but I have difficulty in committing the tunes to my head as they are a bit tricky in parts. I can work out notes and passages from the sheet music, but I cannot sight read in the true sense. I have to listen, then try and remember the tune, then go back and correct the bits Im playing wrong. The whole tune will normally take me about a month to nail down, unless I find that it is too difficult. I would place this one in the borderline category.
Every time I play the first bit, my head tells me Im playing Flambee Montalbanaise, and I am faltering a bit. Its a really nice waltz though, and I think it deserves special effort.
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Guernseyman
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Thank you so much. Yes, I thought of Flambee too when I heard it. I shall work on this!
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morenito
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Thank's. Venturi is the great. Also you Know the pianist? It's Massimo Tagliata! 
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seems odd that he doesn't play the bass, but has a band that plays exactly the same oom-pah that he could have easily played on the bass side.
the band does add something though, actually
the band does add something though, actually
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morenito
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By tradition in Italian accordionist alone sounds accompanying himself on the bass. If and ' accompanied by the band pretends to play them
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In today's music Tejano, Tex mex and Cajun accordion players rarely use there bass machines when performing with other musicians. Even the late Art Van Damme rarely used his bass machine in his jazz performance's. {}
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morenito
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True . Even Richard Galliano , who has demonstrated the ability to play the bass , lately also with its groups with the right sounds . I think the reason is that if playing the bass would undermine the melody together. It ' also true that , especially with the use of free bass , the accordion is still the only instrument in the world can compete , in terms of charm , with its majesty ' the organ .
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indeed. organ music sounds pretty good on accordion. Pull out all the stops (sounds better than flick the switch that has more dots on than the others), and hold chords while doing something interesting with the basses and counterbasses, and you have something quite organlike. best if you have a 5 reed bass, as opposed to 4 reed.
we need to maybe try and market the accordion as an organ - people may take it more seriously.
if you look at it this way, the accordion actually beats the organ on many levels - it can produce almost as many different sounds, and has almost as great a range, but is however many times cheaper and completely portable.
now I think about it, very few people in british and irish folk use the basses, except perhaps the small duos, and for occasional effect.
I hope someone brings basses back into fashion. I am personally quite a fan of a well - placed oom-pah.
we need to maybe try and market the accordion as an organ - people may take it more seriously.
if you look at it this way, the accordion actually beats the organ on many levels - it can produce almost as many different sounds, and has almost as great a range, but is however many times cheaper and completely portable.
now I think about it, very few people in british and irish folk use the basses, except perhaps the small duos, and for occasional effect.
I hope someone brings basses back into fashion. I am personally quite a fan of a well - placed oom-pah.
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Yea, put a dry tuned accordion through a lessley speaker and you can really get sum looks. Yes in a band I don't use the bass only the cords. What would be cool for rock music is to set them up to play just the 5th. 1 and 5 so it would fit better like a power cord on a guitar.
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morenito
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A live of 40 years ago. But every good:
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morenito
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My father was an Italian father fashioned fixed with the accordion . There was no physical contact with him , so 'as to report and confidences branches . I liked the piano but , just to please him , I tried since about 12 years to combine the study of the piano with the study of the accordion as if to seek some contact . I lived in the countryside and still remember the few outlets in the evening especially on Saturday when he and I , alone in the car , we left in the evening to go to or Rispescia Alberese ( small fractions of the municipality ) to go to hear an accordion player who went to the higher and for which my father doted : Carlo Venturi . I remember that I did not like ( perhaps because ' too good and I did not want to admit even to myself ) . After a few years (I had about 25 ) the media spread the news of the death of Venturi and it did not hit me ' more' from time .
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