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Thoughts on Excelsior / Model 610 /CBA, please?

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Just received this one from Goodwill auction from southern Florida, shipped all the way to northern California, only with a paper box without any padding, for the hard case or the accordion itself. Paid total of $830 USD. I wrote the store pleading with them for careful packing, ... to no avail. Luckily, when I opened the box, only the leather corner protectors of hard case were gone (dont know happened during shipping or before that), and now I just noticed that the pearl cover for triple musette switch is missing. Its not in the accordion case, but it was shown in the auction images (see below), so it must fall off somehow during the packing... Sad :evil: :hb .

The great news is this accordion itself is in PERFECT condition, not a single reed, button, or switch is loose, stuck, or has any other problem. What a miracle :b I have FedEx to thank I guess. From the way the accordion was packed, the Goodwill folks clearly could have cared less about the well being of the beautiful instrument.

This is my first Excelsior. Its a 4/5 triple musette C-system CBA. 120 bass, 92/49 notes. I did some home work before bidding. This one looks like from the 70s by the shape of the treble switches? But on the current Excelsior website, they are still producing new Excelsior 610 today with the exact same look and setup. Model 610 is Excelsiors lowest model of the 120 bass full size CBAs. The other two models both have double cassottos among other things. The Model 610 has only 8 distinct treble switches and 3 duplicates. Would be nice to have all 11 switches unique instead. I also dont like the fake treble buttons on all my Italian CBAs. Dont know why they put the fakes there in the first place. All my Italian CBAs have fake buttons, very frustrating. Morinos have more buttons, the old Artiste iv d has a lot more in fact. All of the 102 buttons are functional, no fakes. My little Hohner Nova 3 doesnt have fake buttons either. I like the German way much better in this regard. That should be the way to go!

After playing it for an hour, comparing to the 120 bass 87/45 notes Philharmonic triple musette CBA (from the 1960s), the Excelsior is smaller both in physical dimension and volume. But the reeds on the Excelsior sound clearer and wholesome, even though not as loud. The bass reeds are clearly superior to the muddy, oomphy, and harsher Philharmonic with a lot more clarity and sweet timber. The 610s button is more responsive and the reeds are more sensitive. The bellow is perfect. So is the shape and size, fits me so much better than the much bulkier Morinos CBAs. The treble switches on the 610 is the best among all the accordions I have, period! Precise, smooth, and responsive. A little touch, I get the reassuringly quiet and positive click and the switch is done! Perfect! I am impressed. Too bad the careless shipper scratched off the triple musette switch cover. Ill have to find something similar to make a cover and glue it there. What a shame!

Nevertheless, I must say I am extremely lucky to have won the bid on this perfect 610 for the price. :ch :b {} I didnt expect to win with the max bid I put in. Guess CBAs arent very popular in the US or I just got lucky this time? Perhaps folks already spent too much on the past Black Friday :P I saw similar or older PAs were sold for much more on the same website. LibertyBellow has a very similar 610 on sale for 3 times the price! From their demo video, I think my 610s bass sounds SO MUCH better than theirs! Anyway, Earlier this year, I won a bit on a 100+ year old accordion from a different Goodwill store. It arrived with most of the reeds loose in the bellows in a pile! From the look of it, the old box must have been quite a beauty during its prime. Coming from a poor country growing up with very little of anything, I found the waste and disregard of these old artistic creations in the US appalling and incomprehensible. Then again, my home folks in the old country had no problem blowing up thousand year old structures for parking lots. So what do I know?

Itd be great if the experts here could share more insights on the Excelsior make and Model 610 and other full size CBA models in particular. Your experience, opinion and thoughts are greatly appreciated as always. Thank you all in advance!

 

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Not an expert on these (or anything else) by any means, but Excelsior is one of the most respected Italian makes out there, and by all accounts you have got yourself one hell of a bargain there. CBAs seem to be even rarer in the US than they are here in the UK, and when you do find a decent one you usually have to part with a lot of money, compared to an equivalent PA model.

Fake treble buttons are very common on some Italian CBA makes, and are usually placed there in 5 row accordions purely for aesthetic reasons, so that the buttons are symmetrical. I have had two Italian made 5 row CBA accordions, both with fake buttons, and I would occasionally come unstuck when playing down low. Italian makers also make 4 row CBA instruments, where there is no need to even things up, although these only tend to find favour in Italy, France, and to a lesser degree in Sweden.

Don't know much about Excelsior reeds, but even the machine made ones are reputed to be of very high quality. The lower volume output compared with your other accordion could be due to a variety of reasons that are beyond my knowledge and experience. Could be the size of the instrument, but I'm sure somebody on here will have a technical explanation.

Don't know where you'd get any replacement parts, other than by mail order from Italy. The treble coupler switches look as though they haven't changed in decades so you should be OK there, but I'm not sure if you could also source the missing badge. According to the Internet Excelsior still seem to be manufacturing, although there are still some online adverts for companies who have recently, and not so recently, ceased trading.

Enjoy your accordion, and hopefully other members will be able to add to this two cents worth.

EDIT:- From what I can gather this same 610 model is still being made by Excelsior, so getting spare parts shouldn't be too hard. Some of the inner workings may have been altered over the years, but the box looks identical to the new ones. It's classed as a Professional grade model, and is top of the range of accordions without cassotto. Couldn't really guess the price either new or secondhand in the US. Musical instruments in the US are generally much cheaper than here in the UK. If I could get a used one like yours in the UK it would probably cost me about $2000.
It does really look to be in good condition.
 
After playing the 610 some more today, clearly its volume is smaller than the other 120 bass CBAs I have. Even the similar sized little Morino iv M from the early 50s is significantly louder. But the clarity and sweet timber of the Excelsior is very attractive to my ears. I'll ask Excelsior for the replacement part and see if they have one. Thank you so much for your insight and love to hear from others :tup: :ch
 
Excelsiors in general were never super loud. Even in an orchestra of adults with Excelsiors, me as a 13 year old, I was able to "out volume" them on a Hohner VI N quite easily, but they were not meant to be loud, they were meant to have that very sweet smooth sound that is one of the main traits that made Excelsior accordions so popular... and they did that so very well. :)
 
That is so right on, Jerry! I saw the demo from LibertyBellow of the very similar looking M 610, wasn't impressed by the bass sound. But luckily, my M 610 has a complete different bass sound: clear, full bodied, sweet, and with the right amount of oomph. It kinda grows on me:). Each accordion has a unique sound of its own. I love them all:) It's magic! I love the smell and touch of the old boxes and the not so perfect sound from each of them. Each tells its stories when it sings from the bellows on my chest. This is the magic of the accordion to me that no other instrument can match - it feels like part of my being. Still can't believe those German and Italian farmers could have put these boxes together so long ago in their spare time. Genius! The real deal! :ch :tup: Just an old timer babbling, please excuse me :lol:
 
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