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Hey fellow squeezers and geezers 😁 . I am looking in to options for a CBA V accordion. I am almost entirely looking for an instrument to practice on and eventually teach my children on. I am wondering if a 3xb would still be seen as a viable option? I am aware of one that appears to have been almost never played and is within my budget. I am however concerned about how long it's life span may or may not be. Anyone familiar with repairing these? Components available? I like the idea of the 1xb for its tiny size but I could see 72 bass becoming limiting. Thanks for any help. Eli
 

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A few facts of life...
1. advances in all V-accordions has stopped about 1-2 years now, there aren't going to be any new models coming.
2. If you get a good one, you will get 15-20 years out of it, it is not an acoustic accordion that can last 50+ years with good maintenance.

The components for a 3X are already hard to find and not readily available. This is slowly starting to be the norm for even the last generation of accordions (4X, 8X).
 

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Thanks Jerry, appreciate your wisdom on here. I guess there is always the hope of picking up a parts machine in the future as different ones start dying too? Kinda torn between the 1x and 3x would love a 4 or 8 but don't really need it. I have a very nice acoustic but just need a silent practice box. Thanks again. Eli
 

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Kinda torn between the 1x and 3x would love a 4 or 8 but don't really need it. I have a very nice acoustic but just need a silent practice box.
Then why would you need more than 72 basses? (Yes, you can obviously have other grounds for preferring so.) :)

Oh, this may well be my first message here. - About myself: I had never considered playing the accordion. I bought a "big" acoustic one last november, and an FR-1xb (a button one) a month ago. I may well use the latter as a MIDI controller, too. I may be some collector of instruments, but I do have intentions.
 

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Then why would you need more than 72 basses? (Yes, you can obviously have other grounds for preferring so.) :)

Oh, this may well be my first message here. - About myself: I had never considered playing the accordion. I bought a "big" acoustic one last november, and an FR-1xb (a button one) a month ago. I may well use the latter as a MIDI controller, too. I may be some collector of instruments, but I do have intentions.
I play a lot of Klezmer stuff that has a fair bit of modulation and some funny key choices.. would like to avoid massive bass jumps.. although I guess it would make me better.. how do you like your 1xb?
 

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I play a lot of Klezmer stuff that has a fair bit of modulation and some funny key choices.. would like to avoid massive bass jumps.. although I guess it would make me better.. how do you like your 1xb?
1) Klezmer: it's one of many styles I love. I might prefer playing another instrument, though: the wind controller (Roland: AE-models, Yamaha: obsolete WX-models, and more) for the clarinet part. Some Klezmer clarinet player from NY was quoted: "To others, Dm is a key. To me, it's a living."

2) FR-1xb: I think I'm going to love it, once I have mastered the settings. I'm giving it precedence over my big acoustic piano accordion (Startone Piano Accordion 120 IV), but it can only have a small portion of my time.

3) I could recommend this tutorial (in German) for C-Griff button-accordion: not on Amazon.com, but on Amazon.de and Amazon.nl: ASIN (Amazon item ID) B01MYEII55. It teaches the "relative" fingering of the button-accordion, not the "absolute" fingering of the piano-accordion.
By the way, one advantage of these Roland button-accordions over acoustic ones is the configurability, like choosing B-Griff/C-Griff, Stradella/FreeBass, or other fingerings. This is one factor that made me buy this FR-1xb rather than a cheaper acoustic one (Startone Accordion C-Handle).
 

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1) Klezmer: it's one of many styles I love. I might prefer playing another instrument, though: the wind controller (Roland: AE-models, Yamaha: obsolete WX-models, and more) for the clarinet part. Some Klezmer clarinet player from NY was quoted: "To others, Dm is a key. To me, it's a living."

2) FR-1xb: I think I'm going to love it, once I have mastered the settings. I'm giving it precedence over my big acoustic piano accordion (Startone Piano Accordion 120 IV), but it can only have a small portion of my time.

3) I could recommend this tutorial (in German) for C-Griff button-accordion: not on Amazon.com, but on Amazon.de and Amazon.nl: ASIN (Amazon item ID) B01MYEII55. It teaches the "relative" fingering of the button-accordion, not the "absolute" fingering of the piano-accordion.
By the way, one advantage of these Roland button-accordions over acoustic ones is the configurability, like choosing B-Griff/C-Griff, Stradella/FreeBass, or other fingerings. This is one factor that made me buy this FR-1xb rather than a cheaper acoustic one (Startone Accordion C-Handle).
Dm lol got a few friends that need to hear that one. Thanks for your thought. Yeah I would like to be able to play around with freebase, but in pretty well settled on c system.. Finnish c system does seem nice too though.. after all I am a Finn by blood. It's a bit of a toss up for me. I can prob get the 3xb for the same price as a 1xb.. seems over all like a more capable machine.
 

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1) Klezmer: it's one of many styles I love. I might prefer playing another instrument, though: the wind controller (Roland: AE-models, Yamaha: obsolete WX-models, and more) for the clarinet part. Some Klezmer clarinet player from NY was quoted: "To others, Dm is a key. To me, it's a living."

2) FR-1xb: I think I'm going to love it, once I have mastered the settings. I'm giving it precedence over my big acoustic piano accordion (Startone Piano Accordion 120 IV), but it can only have a small portion of my time.

3) I could recommend this tutorial (in German) for C-Griff button-accordion: not on Amazon.com, but on Amazon.de and Amazon.nl: ASIN (Amazon item ID) B01MYEII55. It teaches the "relative" fingering of the button-accordion, not the "absolute" fingering of the piano-accordion.
By the way, one advantage of these Roland button-accordions over acoustic ones is the configurability, like choosing B-Griff/C-Griff, Stradella/FreeBass, or other fingerings. This is one factor that made me buy this FR-1xb rather than a cheaper acoustic one (Startone Accordion C-Handle).
The quote about Dm came from Sid Beckerman.
 

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Dm lol got a few friends that need to hear that one. Thanks for your thought. Yeah I would like to be able to play around with freebase, but in pretty well settled on c system.. Finnish c system does seem nice too though.. after all I am a Finn by blood. It's a bit of a toss up for me. I can prob get the 3xb for the same price as a 1xb.. seems over all like a more capable machine.
Yes, I would prefer a "more capable" machine, too, and more definitely so if at the same price. :)

Sidebar: it suddenly strikes me that accordion players must be a strange bunch in the eyes of those who buy a smartwatch with cellular connectivity so that they can leave their "bulky" smartphone at home when jogging.
 

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Yes, I would prefer a "more capable" machine, too, and more definitely so if at the same price. :)

Sidebar: it suddenly strikes me that accordion players must be a strange bunch in the eyes of those who buy a smartwatch with cellular connectivity so that they can leave their "bulky" smartphone at home when jogging.
Don't get me wrong.. if I had a 140 bass converte bass I could keep in my pocket I would be all about it lol. By the way and he you don't mind me asking where did you get you one x and how much? I see ones that can be had from over seas for about a thousand less than here. Eli
 
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I have an FR-3xb and it's a great piece of gear. I never really found anything compelling about the 4xb that had me wanting to spend the big $$$ to upgrade. I just wanted a digital chromatic button accordion with lots of accordion sound options, I could care less about non-accordion sounds. The 3xb meets my needs. The comments about the lack of parts for any of these older V-Accordions is a legitimate concern, I treat mine with great care to avoid any possibility of damage.
 

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