Orla xm 300 some bass keys playing wrong sound like augmented instead of major.

[Jon Ott]

What can I do?

 

[JerryPH]

Is there a factory reset?

 

[Ventura]

first, you must connect a different keyboard to the Module
so that you can determine if the problem is the XM300, or
the Controller you have been using

 

[Jon Ott]

Is there a factory reset?

Yes, it changed nothing, TY

 

[JerryPH]

OK, then Ventura had a good idea... is the MIDI sending instrument sending the proper notes and the Orla faithfully reproducing the notes or is it the Orla? Best way is to test it with another MIDI source (ie: another keyboard).

 

[Ventura]

Jon could also elaborate if the Orla is in accompaniment mode
with mis-firing chords
or
just GM mode and the accompaniment preset chords of some MIDI accordion
chord buttons seem to not be followed accurately

 

[Jon Ott]

What is GM mode? I will try and see if is in accompany mode. It used to work right
Thank you

 

[Ventura]

GM or General MIDI mode is just you use the sounds nothing else

so you select a Piano or Strings or anything and play on your keyboard

play every note on the keyboard bottom to top, using any sound,
if each note plays correctly, the keyboard is sending the notes accurately
and the device is reproducing them correctly

if the notes do not match, try a different keyboard and do it again

either the first keyboard is sending notes incorrectly,
that will be revealed when the second one works correctly
or
if both keyboards cause the same problem, it is the Orla at fault

what kind of keyboard or MIDI Accordion do you normally use ?

 

[Jon Ott]

Ok, I now know what GM and XM is. It does it in both. Right and left hand. If I play C It will play C&E. Or F$Bflt.
All other keys are ok, C major chore shows Cmaj and 7th ,
I have another sound module I will try.

 

[Jon Ott]

Ok, I now know what GM and XM is. It does it in both. Right and left hand. If I play C It will play C&E. Or F$Bflt.
All other keys are ok, C major chore shows Cmaj and 7th ,
I have another sound module I will try.

Excelsior accordion and midi box electronic

 

[Jon Ott]

Excelsior accordion and midi box electronic

I didn’t know the diff in cm and gm but now I got it. Slow learner
What I meant about right and left was it does the same problem on both,
I appreciate your input

 

[Ventura]

yes trying a different module is good.. then you will know.

 

[davidplaysaccordion]

can you feed to midi into a tool like midi wrench so you can see the actual midi commands being sent

 

[Ventura]

we really have to determine if the fault is with the Midivox or the Orla, of course

BUT FYI the MIDIVox early design models did have a switchable MIDI
protocol that could be chosen at initiation for/by the customer

this was because at that time, ELKA famously went against
the industry and refused to adopt the Midi Spec as proposed
by Kakehashi and Smith, and accepted by everyone else.
Elka chose to make their own competing spec

as a result, a few European instrument makers hedged their
bets by EPROMing both codes into their keyboard products..
sometimes you chose which system by a software switch,
some by cutting one or another trace on a circuit boad..

i do not remember which method was used on Midivox, but
i do know it was selectable

then the issue becomes, perhaps, is the battery dead and would that
affect this specific issue.. the battery is located UNDER an 8 pin IC
on the main circuitboard.. it MAY be a Capacitive type battery
because actually i have never had or heard of one going completely dead
(yet) but it could be possible for it to finally fail

and if it did fail, would the MIDI spec from ELKA possibly affect note coding
or was that the same in either MIDI spec

 

[JerryPH]

this was because at that time, ELKA famously went against the industry and refused to adopt the Midi Spec as proposed by Kakehashi and Smith, and accepted by everyone else. Elka chose to make their own competing spec

Haha, I knew about *that one*. It's not a big thing, but it can screw you up. For example, on my Elka, the chords are set to CH4, not the standard CH3. Not a biggie if you knew about it and could compensate for it, but something that would drive you nuts if you were not aware.

 

[Jon Ott]

we really have to determine if the fault is with the Midivox or the Orla, of course

BUT FYI the MIDIVox early design models did have a switchable MIDI
protocol that could be chosen at initiation for/by the customer

this was because at that time, ELKA famously went against
the industry and refused to adopt the Midi Spec as proposed
by Kakehashi and Smith, and accepted by everyone else.
Elka chose to make their own competing spec

as a result, a few European instrument makers hedged their
bets by EPROMing both codes into their keyboard products..
sometimes you chose which system by a software switch,
some by cutting one or another trace on a circuit boad..

i do not remember which method was used on Midivox, but
i do know it was selectable

then the issue becomes, perhaps, is the battery dead and would that
affect this specific issue.. the battery is located UNDER an 8 pin IC
on the main circuitboard.. it MAY be a Capacitive type battery
because actually i have never had or heard of one going completely dead
(yet) but it could be possible for it to finally fail

and if it did fail, would the MIDI spec from ELKA possibly affect note coding
or was that the same in either MIDI spec

How do I get to the battery, is it in the accordion?

 

[Ventura]

YOU do not get to the battery,
it is not a kind of battery you are accustomed to or familiar with

and it would take a very good technician to even attempt this,
if it is even possible to find a repair part

but you have not determined where the problem is yet, the
Midivox or the Orla.. so you must first continue your testing
with a different Midi module OR a different MIDI Keyboard