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Hi,

I live in Belgium and I am a player and teacher of harmonica, I would like to accompany me on the piano accordion, with my harmonica holder and play bass on the accordion then, I will learn the keyboard ...

Right now I'm looking for a lightweight model, I've seen the weltmeister Rubin accordion ...

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Welcome Manu.
Nice to have a harmonica player amongst us.
Living in Belgium I would imagine that you have a good chance of scoring a nice, second hand piano accordion. Don’t forget that The Netherlands is just over the border. Let us know how you get on.
 

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Bienvenue Manu!
 

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Salut,
J'habite en Belgique et je suis joueur et professeur d'harmonica, j'aimerais m'accompagner à l'accordéon piano, avec mon porte harmonica et jouer de la basse à l'accordéon puis, j'apprendrai le clavier...
Pour l'instant je cherche un modèle léger, j'ai vu L'accordéon weltmeister Rubin...
Manu
Welcome Manu,
Please post in English.
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Welcome Manu??
Sorry to say, French is all Greek to many of us here on this forum ?, a failure in our education I'm sad to say ?
 

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In fact it is my phone which translates automatically and yet I had translated in English, but it put directly in French ?
 

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manu i just bought a harmonica diatonic sukuki. might be interested in lessons sometime.
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In fact it is my phone which translates automatically and yet I had translated in English, but it put directly in French ?
Sounds like you need a new phone that does what you want (instead of doing what it mistakenly thinks you want), in addition to a piano accordion...
In any case, welcome, and when you are looking for a piano accordion you may have more luck on the "marktplaats.nl" site than on Belgian sites as piano accordion is still vastly dominating in the Netherlands and is dwindling in Belgium (in favor of chromatic button accordion).
Also, in the Netherlands everyone plays the "international" (Stradella) bass system, not the oddly unique uncommon Belgian bass system.
 

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Sounds like you need a new phone that does what you want (instead of doing what it mistakenly thinks you want), in addition to a piano accordion...
In any case, welcome, and when you are looking for a piano accordion you may have more luck on the "marktplaats.nl" site than on Belgian sites as piano accordion is still vastly dominating in the Netherlands and is dwindling in Belgium (in favor of chromatic button accordion).
Also, in the Netherlands everyone plays the "international" (Stradella) bass system, not the oddly unique uncommon Belgian bass system.
thanks for your recommendations, but I will take the risk of ordering a Startone Piano 72 Black MKII accordion

because I have a very tight budget ...!
 

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thanks for your recommendations, but I will take the risk of ordering a Startone Piano 72 Black MKII accordion

because I have a very tight budget ...!
Don't expect too much: Startone is made in China, and is essentially a throw-away accordion. Hopefully it will work initially and you should consider every day you can play it before it breaks as a blessing...
For a similar amount of money you can buy a used Italian accordion that is 30 years old and will last you another 30 years... Likewise with an old Hohner.
 

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yes you are right but for a budget of 600 euros maximum! It will be difficult to find, especially since you have to look at the details when you buy second-hand, the bellows and valve skins. Complete tuning ... for a specialist it's fine, but for an amateur it's more complicated ...
 

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For a similar amount of money you can buy a used Italian accordion that is 30 years old and will last you another 30 years... Likewise with an old Hohner.
Paul's made a very sensible suggestion...of course, it's your money ?
To see what can sometimes be found if you look around, see alabamaaccordion's current thread on this forum ?
See here:
 
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yes you are right but for a budget of 600 euros maximum! It will be difficult to find, especially since you have to look at the details when you buy second-hand, the bellows and valve skins. Complete tuning ... for a specialist it's fine, but for an amateur it's more complicated ...
With a budget of 600 you can often find a Hohner Verdi II (new generation with white register switches, but old enough to still be a German-made one) which is a nice 37/96 LMM accordion of good quality and virtually indestructible.
 

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I saw a second-hand accordion Accordion Hohner Bravo lll R at 800 euros it looks close to new on the other hand it is made in China!
Or I can find a link to have information to know if for example the hohner bravo 1 or 2 if it is made in Germany the bravo 3 is on it is Chinese manufacture with certainly strictly German specifications?
 

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I saw a second-hand accordion Accordion Hohner Bravo lll R at 800 euros it looks close to new on the other hand it is made in China!
Or I can find a link to have information to know if for example the hohner bravo 1 or 2 if it is made in Germany the bravo 3 is on it is Chinese manufacture with certainly strictly German specifications?
The problem you face is buying a used accordion in good playing shape that does not require repair to play and sound good. This is possible at any price, but requires a basic level of knowledge. You can't judge this by brand, model, or country of origin. Conventional wisdom on this forum is to go to a reputable accordion store with a friend who has the required level of knowledge. If that is not possible, you have to trust the vendors, either in person or online and make sure you get a warranty for repairs. Good luck, Manu! Don't hesitate to continue your questions here.
 

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I saw a second-hand accordion Accordion Hohner Bravo lll R at 800 euros it looks close to new on the other hand it is made in China!
Or I can find a link to have information to know if for example the hohner bravo 1 or 2 if it is made in Germany the bravo 3 is on it is Chinese manufacture with certainly strictly German specifications?
German specifications is not enough. It needs to be made in Germany, using German (or other European) materials in order for it to be good. Hohners made in China are made with rubbish Chinese steel, and as a result for instance springs tend to break much much sooner than they ever would when German springs were used...
The Hohners that are particularly good are the Verdi II (37/96) or Verdi III (41/120) and you can maybe even find a Verdi II (with white registers) from the German era, after service by a store, for around 600 euro.
You cannot really trust any vendor who sells Chinese rubbish and calls himself an accordion specialist. As long as you cannot get a Chinese accordion for say 600 euro new that is at least as good as a serviced old German or Italian accordion of similar spec, buy European and run away from the Chinese accordions! (I am not generally biased against the Chinese, but when it comes to accordions they still have decades of learning to go before they are likely to produce something good.)
 
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