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Hi,
I'm a newbie to this forum malarky. I'm a relative newbie to playing too - got my first melodeon last December, but wanting to move onto a CBA for more interesting bass opportunities. Still looking for a starter CBA, so if anyone can point me towards a good instrument for a starter, at a reasonable price, I'd be very grateful!

I'm currently playing a scarlatti D/G melodeon with Rampant Rooster Morris in Dorking, but a couple of our musicians are getting together to do something with more modern tunes, which is where the 8 bass melodeon starts to fall apart!

I don't have anything in the way of formal music training (I don't include the year I learned violin when I was 8!), but have the time to practice and am enjoying getting all musical! So that's about it.
 

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Hi Andy,

Welcome to the forum. Nice to meet you here.
I am a bit puzzled by your comment on moving to CBA.
I assume you mean "more interesting bass opportunities" because there are more buttons on a Stradella compared to your current box (unless you are looking for free-bass).
If it's just the bass that you want more interesting you could also move to piano accordion.
 

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Thanks Glen,

Yes, it's the larger bass range on a CBA that it the reason for wanting to change. Have thought about PAs, but I think I'd like to try a CBA first, as I have never played a piano keyboard instrument before. I'll probably be playing both morris tunes as well as more contemporary stuff, so I'd like the versatility that comes with a CBA key pattern, as some of our morris tunes can be tricky on the PA, and I think I may struggle. Hope that makes sense?
 

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AndyFereday said:
Hi,
Im a newbie to this forum malarky. Im a relative newbie to playing too - got my first melodeon last December, but wanting to move onto a CBA for more interesting bass opportunities. Still looking for a starter CBA, so if anyone can point me towards a good instrument for a starter, at a reasonable price, Id be very grateful!

Im currently playing a scarlatti D/G melodeon with Rampant Rooster Morris in Dorking, but a couple of our musicians are getting together to do something with more modern tunes, which is where the 8 bass melodeon starts to fall apart!

I dont have anything in the way of formal music training (I dont include the year I learned violin when I was 8!), but have the time to practice and am enjoying getting all musical! So thats about it.

What sort of modern music......?are we talking avant garde, classical....or we going to rock out ? :ch
 

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Hi Jarvo,

We're going down the modern & classic rock route! Kirsten Baron is one of our musos (also plays with the Number One Ladies' Accordion Orchestra) and has worked out an AWESOME (I do hate using that word!) PA version of Paint It Black! I can play the melody on my melodeon (with accidentals), but can't get anywhere near the bass that's needed for it. I have worked out The Doors' "People Are Strange" on Melodeon, and it's just about the only tune I can play with accompanying bass, but sounds good (although I need to practice it more.....!)

We've also got a few 70's and 80's pieces in the pipeline - Golden Brown (The Stranglers), Call Me (Blondie), some bits & bobs of Talking Heads and I'm trying to convince the other musicians that Rasputin (yes, THAT Boney M one) is a goer. I got shouted down on A-Ha's Take On Me though......

;-)
 

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Welcome Andy.
Google Golden Brown + accordion and you'll find a tutorial on youtube. It's PA, but worth a look - and you used to be able to download the sheets for it. If you cant and you want them I should have them somewhere and I'll either PM them or post them up..
 

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Haha! Hi Kirsten!

Hi Soulsaver - thanks for that. I don't actually read music (play everything by ear), but thanks for the offer anyway! We're trying to do more layered music, so we're each working out different complimentary (or is it complementary?) parts...
 

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Rock and Roll Classics.......I'd love to have go at Voodoo Chile.......hey.....a roland through an amp with a wah pedal in between should actually work.......off to the shed !!........nice one good luck.....and you have blown another part of
Baroness Any Kirsten Anka's cover.....seems she's a rock chick as well {} :b :tup: .(Dives behind settee immediately)
 

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jarvo said:
.a roland through an amp with a wah pedal in between should actually work.......off to the shed !!........nice one good luck.....and you have blown another part of
Baroness Any Kirsten Ankas cover.....seems shes a rock chick as well {} :b :tup: .(Dives behind settee immediately)
You should be able to get a wah wah effect via a midi controller.
Not sure its easily built in the shed but you can have a go anyway.
Is it possible to attach a breath controller to the Roland like the early days of Yamaha and Roland synths?
 

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jarvo said:
.a roland through an amp with a wah pedal in between should actually work.......off to the shed !!........nice one good luck.....and you have blown another part of
Baroness Any Kirsten Ankas cover.....seems shes a rock chick as well {} :b :tup: .(Dives behind settee immediately)
You should be able to get a wah wah effect via a midi controller.
Not sure its easily built in the shed but you can have a go anyway.
Is it possible to attach a breath controller to the Roland like the early days of Yamaha and Roland synths?[/quote]

Sorry Glenn, my shed is not that sort of shed. It houses mandolins, ukuleles, banjos, guitars, harmonicas, accordions and a clapped out keyboard ...along with amps, a couple of pedals (including a Big Foot Wah pedal) and Lizzy the goodwifes tambourine...and the recording kit....a compooter etc..........my shed in the garden has all that and not a garden tool in sight :tup:
 

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AndyFereday said:
I have worked out The Doors People Are Strange on Melodeon, and its just about the only tune I can play with accompanying bass, but sounds good (although I need to practice it more.....!)

I bet it was originally written for melodeon.

AndyFereday said:
complimentary (or is it complementary?) parts

The latter. Even classic rock is not so polite as to typically feature complimentary parts.

Where to look for a CBA? I understand Paris is a couple hours on the train from London. For me, that would be something to think about - could be wrong, but my impression sure is that its a much more familiar sight on the other side of the channel.
 

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Hi Donn,
Do excuse my spelling errors - I'm now typing on a phone which doesn't feature accordion-specific autocorrect! Paris may be a good start, but I would need to figure in cost of travel and hassle getting hold of a good CBA... I'm looking into a couple of ideas here and elsewhere, and I hope to update my stories quite soon...
 

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The Paolo Soprani C system in Fettler's email is cheaper than they usually go for. My equivalent (a bit newer I think - black badge rather than blue?) has a good rich sound and is fairly light, not a real high end box but a lot of fun to play. In my opinion a lot depends on whether you like the sound, the tuning etc. (a lot of these Paolo's are tuned wet I think) and also a lot depends on when you try the box on, whether you like the feel of it, which is hard to analyse. The condition would be important on an older box too (which this will be), whether the bellows are airtight, how in tune it is etc., and a newer box would give you more certainty around that sort of thing, but this could be a good price for what it is, in my opinion. (Others, please feel free to disagree, I am not a specialist in what is available out there.)
 
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All valid points, Matt. Andy's based in Surrey, so a daytrip to Cleckheaton is probably not on the cards. The chaps there are very helpful and I've always found Jon Loomes to be completely honest with his assessments of instrument condition. Of course, there's no substitute for strapping yourself in and playing for a while, then comparing others.
 

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Oh yeah... sorry... oh well the Paolo Soprani still looks like it might be good value for what it is to me, depending on this that and the other... I like mine.
 

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Some interesting geography here. According to the miracle of online map route planning, it's 3 1/2 hours by motor car from Surrey to Cleackheaton. Over here on the west coast of North American, that's a little long for an average daily commute, but for an occasional jaunt it isn't much. I have in fact gone about that far to get a saxophone, and I'd sure drive the distance rather than entrust an accordion to the postal service. It sounds like it's quite out of the question over there, though. Gasoline is cheaper here, I imagine, that could have something to do with it, but it isn't just that, is it?
 

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No it's a cultural thing! To be fair I did drive half way across the country (i.e. not very far at all by US standards) to get my bargain priced early Roland and got a few hours at the seaside into the bargain. Don't know whether Cleckheaton is a major tourist destination or not but there is something to be said for trying things in person - sometimes you find out about something you weren't expecting. The downside is when you try something you can't afford and you want it.
 

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Hahah! Thanks Matt & Martin.

Cleckheaton isn't far from where I used to live in Halifax. No matter what google maps tells you, it's more than 3 1/2 hours in a car up there. When we moved down here it took us 6 1/2 hours (although something like 2 hours of that was the M25 in morning rush hour!).
 
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