So would I be right in saying that you can't tune the reeds the way that you like? If so, Roland have missed a trick there...
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It would be nice to just have 3 rotary knobs , one for each imaginery set of (mmm) treble reeds . clockwise for sharp and anticlockwise for flat. Perhaps with a tuning meter/indicator so that you could adjust each set to give the combination of sound you want. The L reedset or whatever they really are would be quite happy staying at concert pitch.
Such a set up would be far preferable for luddites like me than the farting about with touchscreens ,displays , uploads,downloads, etc etc etc . Even the tremin ology used bears absolutely no connection with reality
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Such a set up would be far preferable for luddites like me than the farting about with touchscreens ,displays , uploads,downloads, etc etc etc . Even the tremin ology used bears absolutely no connection with reality
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That would be continous parameter control of some kind of modelling virtual software - something mimicking that could be achieved but it's actually MASSIVELY more complicated than you think! And anyway, a few controls permanently assigned to doing one thing would greatly reduce the flexibility of the accordion-shaped 'control surface' driving the Roland software behind it.
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simonking said:
Id rather that Roland focused on the accordion part at the expense of the other non-accordion sounds, like Rolands V pianos. I dont think that the pitch has to be continuously variable in real time, but it should be possible to have an electronic instrument that doesnt have to have on-board menus and can offer the player some bespoke tuning options,
My ideal would include this feature, plus some additional left hand options like Guitar chords and a sweeter double bass sound than the thunk that I hear on a lot on Rolands.
Its all academic for me anyway, I like my Brandoni just as it is...
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Yes, and that's the whole point in having software rather than just a few hardware controls - it's the configurability, and everyone will want theirs configured differently.
I could have days of enjoying myself messing about with all that on Roland (ah, the days of MIDI sequencers on my Amiga 500...), but I still wouldn't want to listen to one thumping out drum sounds on the bass buttons accompanying a cheesey panpipe melody. It's a bit like musicals - I've had great fun playing in a couple of productions (not on accordion) but would never want to actually go and see one!
I could have days of enjoying myself messing about with all that on Roland (ah, the days of MIDI sequencers on my Amiga 500...), but I still wouldn't want to listen to one thumping out drum sounds on the bass buttons accompanying a cheesey panpipe melody. It's a bit like musicals - I've had great fun playing in a couple of productions (not on accordion) but would never want to actually go and see one!
Jack Emblow summed it up for me, he said "If I had wanted to play a xylophone I would have bought one"
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That he prefers acoustic instruments - viz the OP of this discussion.Glenn said:
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That he prefers acoustic instruments - viz the OP of this discussion.[/quote]Glenn said:
Or more strictly that he isnt satisfied with an electronic imitation of an acoustic instrument.
Of course electronic instruments can emit a wide variety of sounds, and I suppose sometimes we may attach names to them like we sometimes call accordion registers violin, bassoon etc., but with the accordion there is no real intention to imitate those instruments, its simply a nomenclatural gimmick. I gather that in many cases the electronic sounds are much more deliberately engineered to sound recognizably like some acoustic instrument, like xylophone. That comes with its own issues.
The fact that there is still only 1 major manufacturer of digital accordions, and if they where to stop production, what then? So not so popular..
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Acoustic accordion converted to reedless, or reedless from new.
Interesting page from Hans Palm
http://www.accordionpage.com/reedless.html
Briefly discussed here
http://www.accordionists.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2768&p=28086&hilit=reedless#p28086[/url]
How do these (Rolands) compare, sound quality wise, with a Yamaha or Casio keyboard?
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I used to own some Roland sound modules (JV Series), and I recognise quite a few of the sounds on the Roland Accordion, Id rather just learn to use a Keyboard Workstation if I needed to have them.
Im sure that many of us would be quite happy with a Electronic box if is was just an accordion plus.ie have great tuneable reeds and a few sweet sounding LH sounds. No on board menus, and set up from a phone, pad or computer.
An 'accordion plus' sounds good to me.
When I first heard the tone of my acoustic box, I knew that was for me. I have never said that about any electronic instrument.
I was at a ceilidh listening to Gordon Pattullo playing when his electrics started misbehaving. He apologised because his piano player had gone on strike but to me it brought out the best of him.
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When I first heard the tone of my acoustic box, I knew that was for me. I have never said that about any electronic instrument.
I was at a ceilidh listening to Gordon Pattullo playing when his electrics started misbehaving. He apologised because his piano player had gone on strike but to me it brought out the best of him.
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