Fr4x editor software

[Keymn]

I recently received an fr4x. Downloaded the fr4x editor software and driver. I was able to connect for a while.
Then all of a sudden the editor would timeout when trying to connect. It goes to 26% then stops. Has anyone experienced this? Have a win10 PC.

 

[JerryPH]

I don't even know anyone here that has a 4X, much less know someone here that has a level of expertise with the editor... Short of Richard Noel.

What can I say but uninstall the editor, make sure you have ALL the recent updates on Win10, have all the prerequisited supporting software, reinstall and try again.

 

[Keymn]

I dont even know anyone here that has a 4X, much less know someone here that has a level of expertise with the editor... Short of Richard Noel.

What can I say but uninstall the editor, make sure you have ALL the recent updates on Win10, have all the prerequisited supporting software, reinstall and try again.

I narrowed it down to the set I made. Maybe corrupt in some way? one thing, that if in anyway during communication transfer to accordion, USB cable disconnects, could cause problems. I just started from the factory sets and programmed from scratch. The user programs were ok. Roland is trying out my set at there factory to see if they get the same results.
Also found the power settings on the pc must be set to the highest level. I think apple computer may be my next purchase. Since I already have iPad and iPhone.
Lots to learn on this accordion. Korg PA3x and I think Tyros arrangers do it different. They have a hard drive like in a laptop. Make the edits, drag and drop to and from the pc. Accordion probably too compact for this. Maybe next generation? SD insert would be nice too. Many keyboards have this already.

 

[Keymn]

Fr4x has been with me for about a month and I feel the editor software makes it so simple to set up the user program groups or sets. In my earlier post I had some problem with editor. Apparently, one of my set files was corrupt. As suggested, I went back to factory all and reprogrammed, no problem. :b

As far as the batteries, the energizer 2300 recharge batteries gives me plenty of uptime for a gig. The Tenergy TN438 LCD smart charger which has 16 bays seems to work well. Maybe buy new batteries and replace once a year to be sure? I also purchase the second battery holder. Not sure of the battery connector cable in the accordion will last, may purchase another as a spare?

The accordion speakers perform better then what I heard from others. No problem with strolling. On the average, have the volume set 12 to 1 O'clock.

Sure miss orchestra layer like the FR8X...although, I like the smaller size making shaking bellows easier (miss those extra couple upper notes on the treble).
Keep me posted from any fr4x users.

 

[JerryPH]

The bellows shake is not very good on a Roland. I wish I couls find the links that Uwe Steger shared that explain in great detail why and then proves it via technical screen captures. Thankfully for me that is a technique that I rarely use.

 

[JIM D.]

Is it here ?? ---

 

[JerryPH]

No, thats not it. In the video I was thinking of, he shows and proves why the bellows shake cannot be done anywhere near as effectively on a V-Accordion by demo and computer output samples.

 

[Keymn]

I am concern over the the electronics when doing bellow shakes on VAccordion?

 

[JerryPH]

I am concern over the the electronics when doing bellow shakes on VAccordion?

Can you even do a good bellows shake witha V? I know you cannot on an 8X. As far as the electronics are concerned... dont be, there are no internal moving parts inside the circuits. Shake the box around all you want.

 

[Keymn]

I am concern over the the electronics when doing bellow shakes on VAccordion?

Can you even do a good bellows shake witha V? I know you cannot on an 8X. As far as the electronics are concerned... dont be, there are no internal moving parts inside the circuits. Shake the box around all you want. [/quote]

I had my fr7 apart, I recall a fine wire Cable harness connects the bass switches. They seem to be well harnessed and never heard of any breakage?

 

[Keymn]

I recently received an fr4x. Downloaded the fr4x editor software and driver. I was able to connect for a while.
Then all of a sudden the editor would timeout when trying to connect. It goes to 26% then stops. Has anyone experienced this? Have a win10 PC.

Resolved, thank you Roland for your Support.

 

[JerryPH]

It is I highly unlikely that Roland monitors this board,but... what did you end up doing??

 

[Keymn]

It is I highly unlikely that Roland monitors this board,but... what did you end up doing??

I had to do a factory all reset. I think one of the sets was corrupt. I sent my set to Roland to analyze. The instrument was new to me and maybe, the USB accidemtly disconnected while saving? Although, my PC was not set to maximum performance on the power settings at first when I started saving. This was mentioned by Roland from another client that had similar problem.

 

[Keymn]

It is I highly unlikely that Roland monitors this board,but... what did you end up doing??

I had to do a factory all reset. I think one of the sets was corrupt. I sent my set to Roland to analyze. The instrument was new to me and maybe, the USB accidemtly disconnected while saving? Although, my PC was not set to maximum performance on the power settings at first when I started saving. This was mentioned by Roland from another client that had similar problem.

As you recall, I originally had problems with my editor. It would freeze up at 26% when trying to connect. As stated I started from factory and all was good.
So yesterday, I decided to load the supposedly corrupt set/UPG. This time it worked with the editor and communicated perfectly. Not sure what happened to make it work this time? Strange? Maybe my PC had an upgrade? I will never know?

 

[JerryPH]

Amazing how life occupies even my shortest available free times so that ther is no real time to spend on the accordion and just fooling around. I downloaded the new editor for the 8X, tested it out once for like 2 minutes and have been unable to touch it since. Maybe later tonight.

I might have to start making lists with schedules and prioritizing what I want to accomplish... lol.

The concept of the editor is one long overdue on the 8X and I am looking forward to not only making new combinations but modifying the ones that I bought from Richard Noel to improve their balance and custome their sounds to my needs.

 

[Keymn]

Amazing how life occupies even my shortest available free times so that ther is no real time to spend on the accordion and just fooling around. I downloaded the new editor for the 8X, tested it out once for like 2 minutes and have been unable to touch it since. Maybe later tonight.

I might have to start making lists with schedules and prioritizing what I want to accomplish... lol.

The concept of the editor is one long overdue on the 8X and I am looking forward to not only making new combinations but modifying the ones that I bought from Richard Noel to improve their balance and custome their sounds to my needs.

You will realize it in due time. Since I gave up my day job at 65, I found out I not need all those other Bells and Whistles in life (not pertaining to the accordion). I even gave up cable, do not miss it! Take my to wife to breakfast every morning...no alarm clock!

 

[kep]

No, thats not it. In the video I was thinking of, he shows and proves why the bellows shake cannot be done anywhere near as effectively on a V-Accordion by demo and computer output samples.

The whole discussion is here: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/RolandFR-8X/conversations/topics/3145[/url]

The reason is:

On acoustic accordion you have reeds with its own sluggishness. After the reed is swinging, you can change the bellows direction and back ... the reed is swinging yet and will give you a fast response. So there is almost no sound loss, depending of the quality of the reed.

A pressure sensor isnt sluggish. Every move (even though it is so small) is shown. When you change the bellows direction, the sensor drives complete to zero AND all steps between your current value and zero! That is a huge sound loss!

So, you can set whatever you want. This behavior is not affected.
You would have to change the bellows direction from +100% to -100% in crazy 0,00000001 seconds and even then it would sound different from the acoustic pendant.

I would call it good-natured and malignant or comfortable and uncomfortable

This kind of sluggishness is one point what I would expect under the advertising virtual sound behaviour.
Uwe

 

[JerryPH]

Yes! Thanks for finding that.