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Clinkscale electric accordion power supply help...

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Hi everyone, I work as a tech and am trying to find out some info on a clinkscale electric accordion, it arrived missing its PSU/volume pedal and am looking to build a suitable replacement however I cant seem to find any service manuals/schematics online anywhere, if anyone could help me out with one or even a pin out of the cable with the relevant voltage/current requirements that would be fantastic!

Heres some pics of the squeezebox in question...


https://photos.app.goo.gl/7MCebCqH2gh8wMyBA
 
Markharris pid=68391 dateline=1575133351 said:
Hi everyone, I work as a tech and am trying to find out some info on a clinkscale electric accordion, it arrived missing its PSU/volume pedal and am looking to build a suitable replacement however I cant seem to find any service manuals/schematics online anywhere, if anyone could help me out with one or even a pin out of the cable with the relevant voltage/current requirements that would be fantastic!

Heres some pics of the squeezebox in question...


https://photos.app.goo.gl/7MCebCqH2gh8wMyBA

Mark,

Sorry, but Ive never had any experience of them at all. 

However, the late Jimmy Clinkscales son, Steve, may be able to point you in the right direction. He still operates an accordion retail outlet from his home address, and here is a link to his website:-

https://steveclinkscalemusic.co.uk/13-accordions
 
What you are looking at is not originally a Clinksdale, this is simply a rebadged Iorio S3 Accorgan.  Getting parts for them is going to be challenging because it is a piece from the 80s.  I know... I own one.  :)

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ioriobuttons.jpg

It will likely be far easier to find parts for an Iorio than Clinksdale.  Good luck with your search!  :)
 
JerryPH pid=68404 dateline=1575203157 said:
What you are looking at is not originally a Clinksdale, this is simply a rebadged Iorio S3 Accorgan.  Getting parts for them is going to be challenging because it is a piece from the 80s.  I know... I own one.  :)

4.jpg

ioriobuttons.jpg

It will likely be far easier to find parts for an Iorio than Clinksdale.  Good luck with your search!  :)

Jerry,

Jimmy Clinkscale ran an accordion shop in Melrose, Scotland, for many years, and commissioned his own accordion brand name, which were mainly rebadged Crucianellis. The shop was one of the most revered accordion outlets in Scotland, and was a great loss when it closed down. They relocated to two consecutive premises in nearby Galashiels following the Melrose close down, but eventually ceased trading altogether, probably in the early 2000s. I have no idea whether there was any connection between Crucianelli and Iorio. Accorgans apparently used Elkavox 77 tone generators, whatever that means.

Dont think Id ever heard of an Iorio in Scotland where the OP is based, so he could have trouble sourcing parts for those there. (Nearly said here, but I now live in England).
 
maugein96 pid=68416 dateline=1575216458 said:
Jerry,

Jimmy Clinkscale ran an accordion shop in Melrose, Scotland, for many years, and commissioned his own accordion brand name, which were mainly rebadged Crucianellis. The shop was one of the most revered accordion outlets in Scotland, and was a great loss when it closed down. They relocated to two consecutive premises in nearby Galashiels following the Melrose close down, but eventually ceased trading altogether, probably in the early 2000s. I have no idea whether there was any connection between Crucianelli and Iorio. Accorgans apparently used Elkavox 77 tone generators, whatever that means.

Dont think Id ever heard of an Iorio in Scotland where the OP is based, so he could have trouble sourcing parts for those there. (Nearly said here, but I now live in England).

That Clinksdale came from the factory with the Iorio badge originally, Clinksdale merely changed the grill and rebadged. Its a fairly common practice. :)

Iorio and Elka shared a similar history, with the Iorio being the root company (the Iorio name was around many decades before Elka existed).  Elka later split off, joined SEM for their access to more advanced electronics.  The S3 did not use a tone generator, it had everything internalized (I believe it was called the famous L3 board? I will check my original documentation here at home one day) and the footpedal was the AC adapter and volume control unit with a single mono output that normally went to external amplification.  The 77 came with the external tone generator, and that continued down to the Elka 83 model (which I also own). I never liked the huge tone generator, as it was a big box to carry around and one was limited to the distance of the cable from tone generator to the accordion... but the sound quality at the time was far superior to the S3 generation of accordions

The tone generator can be seen near the center here with the Ketron X4 just above it:

mess.jpg
 
JerryPH pid=68429 dateline=1575280453 said:
maugein96 pid=68416 dateline=1575216458 said:
Jerry,

Jimmy Clinkscale ran an accordion shop in Melrose, Scotland, for many years, and commissioned his own accordion brand name, which were mainly rebadged Crucianellis. The shop was one of the most revered accordion outlets in Scotland, and was a great loss when it closed down. They relocated to two consecutive premises in nearby Galashiels following the Melrose close down, but eventually ceased trading altogether, probably in the early 2000s. I have no idea whether there was any connection between Crucianelli and Iorio. Accorgans apparently used Elkavox 77 tone generators, whatever that means.

Dont think Id ever heard of an Iorio in Scotland where the OP is based, so he could have trouble sourcing parts for those there. (Nearly said here, but I now live in England).

That Clinksdale came from the factory with the Iorio badge originally, Clinksdale merely changed the grill and rebadged.  Its a fairly common practice.  :)

Iorio and Elka shared a similar history, with the Iorio being the root company (the Iorio name was around many decades before Elka existed).  Elka later split off, joined SEM for their access to more advanced electronics.  The S3 did not use a tone generator, it had everything internalized (I believe it was called the famous L3 board?  I will check my original documentation here at home one day) and the footpedal was the AC adapter and volume control unit with a single mono output that normally went to external amplification.  The 77 came with the external tone generator, and that continued down to the Elka 83 model (which I also own). I never liked the huge tone generator, as it was a big box to carry around and one was limited to the distance of the cable from tone generator to the accordion... but the sound quality at the time was far superior to the S3 generation of accordions

The tone generator can be seen near the center here with the Ketron X4 just above it:

mess.jpg

Hi Jerry,

Hopefully that comprehensive info will be of assistance to the OP. Jimmy Cs shop was a Mecca for Scottish players, but it wasnt a huge concern, and we were all led to believe that Jimmy paid for his own logo and grilles to be affixed by the manufacturer. That may not have been the case, however, and I just dont know what the situation was.


JerryPH pid=68429 dateline=1575280453 said:
maugein96 pid=68416 dateline=1575216458 said:
Jerry,

Jimmy Clinkscale ran an accordion shop in Melrose, Scotland, for many years, and commissioned his own accordion brand name, which were mainly rebadged Crucianellis. The shop was one of the most revered accordion outlets in Scotland, and was a great loss when it closed down. They relocated to two consecutive premises in nearby Galashiels following the Melrose close down, but eventually ceased trading altogether, probably in the early 2000s. I have no idea whether there was any connection between Crucianelli and Iorio. Accorgans apparently used Elkavox 77 tone generators, whatever that means.

Dont think Id ever heard of an Iorio in Scotland where the OP is based, so he could have trouble sourcing parts for those there. (Nearly said here, but I now live in England).

That Clinksdale came from the factory with the Iorio badge originally, Clinksdale merely changed the grill and rebadged.  Its a fairly common practice.  :)

Iorio and Elka shared a similar history, with the Iorio being the root company (the Iorio name was around many decades before Elka existed).  Elka later split off, joined SEM for their access to more advanced electronics.  The S3 did not use a tone generator, it had everything internalized (I believe it was called the famous L3 board?  I will check my original documentation here at home one day) and the footpedal was the AC adapter and volume control unit with a single mono output that normally went to external amplification.  The 77 came with the external tone generator, and that continued down to the Elka 83 model (which I also own). I never liked the huge tone generator, as it was a big box to carry around and one was limited to the distance of the cable from tone generator to the accordion... but the sound quality at the time was far superior to the S3 generation of accordions

The tone generator can be seen near the center here with the Ketron X4 just above it:

mess.jpg

Hi Jerry,

Hopefully that comprehensive info will be of assistance to the OP. Jimmy Cs shop was a Mecca for Scottish players, but it wasnt a huge concern, and we were all led to believe that Jimmy paid for his own logo and grilles to be affixed by the manufacturer. That may not have been the case, however, and I just dont know what the situation was.
 
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