Thanks for clarifying!
The arrangement is called "declassement" It works best on a button accordion with the keyboard somewhat forward so the block with bassoon reeds is effectively under the keyboard (and register mechanism) and that part of the accordion acts a bit like a cassotto because the sound can only "exit" the accordion indirectly. The use of a declassement makes the keyboard and lever construction more complex and that's why it was later abandoned. The Hohner Artiste IV and VI models (N and S series) no longer had a declassement but simply all blocks in a row, causing an uneven sound (quite different on the first row of buttons than the second and third row). The Hohner Romandie and the Artiste IX, X and XI do have a cassotto and clearly better sound.
I don't think I'll do particularly well wrt identifying the sounds coming from my own accordions (tuning aside). If it all, the clarinet sound from the bell 4511 - I used to own - is the only sound I might be able to name.There was a thread on this very question some years ago,
As I remember it, one of our members provided several sound samples and challenged one and all to identify the instruments (makes) producing them.
Although the results were not exactly encouraging, the attempt provided considerable entertainment for members!
There was a similar instance of a double blind experiment in identifying a Stradivarius violin among a batch of lesser brands. What was interesting is no one succeeded with several amusing misattributions among the results!
This is a bit like recognizing winegrape varietals by the leaves of the vine. It CAN be done, but it's not easy to do, because all the leaves look like grape leaves, basically. There's a few where I could say I knew what it wasn't.
As I understand it, the Shand has a clever cassotto like arrangement of reeds, where it gets a bit of that effect? I've never seen one in person, nor played one, so I'm not about to fight about it, but I read something about how some reeds were nestled a bit under the treble keyboard?
From the video he made it seems the accordion is not only that, but it may in fact be #1. Which is kind of amazing.
Jupiter have the best deep bass I think.
Russian bayans do indeed have the best deep bass (albeit always in LM in the lowest 14 or 15 notes, and LL higher up). It doesn't need to be Jupiter. All similar large Russian bayans use identical construction for the low bass notes.
But that means they are heavy doesnt it? Low note = Big reed = Heavy instrument. My both Hohners lowest is G. They probably go down to D or C, I didnt search. It may also make harder to pull-push I guess. Sound will start a bit delayed from sucking air in a big reed. I can feel that too in treble L
Generally that is indeed true. But when the recordings are of good quality, like those made of professional players, and the accordions are all high-end instruments with convertor (or at least melody bass) and cassotto, and the music isn't fast (you need time to actually hear the notes)... I find that without seeing anything (for instance listening to the radio, without announcements and without looking at the play list) I can identify a Pigini with reasonable certainty, and quickly too. There is just something about the Pigini sound that sets it apart from everything else. (And it is something you either like or dislike...)Being in a room with 10 accordions, hearing them 1-2 times then being blindfolded, there is a good chance I could identify them. In a forum using unidentified accordions recorded by low quality audio equipment and listened to on my cell phone speakers… not going to happen, it’s very much an exercise in futility.
