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Bass heavy vs light fingering

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VicAccoFun post_id=57082 time=1523559839 user_id=2820 said:
Geronimo post_id=57074 time=1523520067 user_id=2623 said:
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It might make sense to let a teacher look over what you are doing before you get used to something unhealthy and/or counterproductive.

You know - thats something I feel is quite relevant to learning how to play accordions.
Even violin seems to be overall easier in self-teaching.
Violin? Seriously? Thats the least anatomical instrument of all. So many ways to cramp up and/or lock joints and/or have it slide around. Without a teacher getting to a stance that will hold up for hours and will allow for vibrato, trills, spiccato, position changes and gives you continuous tone control and quality over the full length of the bow: good luck with that.
 
Geronimo post_id=57083 time=1523560627 user_id=2623 said:
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Violin? Seriously? Thats the least anatomical instrument of all. So many ways to cramp up and/or lock joints and/or have it slide around. Without a teacher getting to a stance that will hold up for hours and will allow for vibrato, trills, spiccato, position changes and gives you continuous tone control and quality over the full length of the bow: good luck with that.

No problem if you know what to do. There is only one correct way to play it and it simplifies the learning process.
 
VicAccoFun post_id=57084 time=1523564182 user_id=2820 said:
Geronimo post_id=57083 time=1523560627 user_id=2623 said:
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Violin? Seriously? Thats the least anatomical instrument of all. So many ways to cramp up and/or lock joints and/or have it slide around. Without a teacher getting to a stance that will hold up for hours and will allow for vibrato, trills, spiccato, position changes and gives you continuous tone control and quality over the full length of the bow: good luck with that.

No problem if you know what to do. There is only one correct way to play it and it simplifies the learning process.
Well, I took about a decade of lessons distributed over a few decades of my life and if there is only one correct way to play it, it is likely not to open the case at all. Other than that, there is a wide continuum of different manners depending on violin and player anatomy that make some sense. Many folk players I see, for example, dont use the pinky on their bow hand and without a proper counterbalance are confined to the upper 75% of the bow. Are you going to tell not correct to somebody earning his keep and then some with his violin?
 
Geronimo post_id=57095 time=1523605173 user_id=2623 said:
... Many folk players I see, for example, dont use the pinky on their bow hand and without a proper counterbalance are confined to the upper 75% of the bow. Are you going to tell not correct to somebody earning his keep and then some with his violin?

Yep, they are doing it the wrong way. They also bend their wrist inward thus limiting and restricting their hand mobility. Thats why they play in the first position exclusively.
- If someone holds an accordion upside down and plays bass notes with their RH and the piano keyboard with the LH that shouldnt be a problem unless it restricts a player in some way.
- However with a violin played stuck in the first position with the wrist bent inward thats a different story: its clearly a lame way to play the instrument.

By the way, I like our argument. I find it funny. However it leads nowhere and I understand it.
If it sounds good it is good - otherwise its pointless to argue about music.
Take care!
 
there is indeed a lot to be said for the '' if it sounds good it is good'' principle, particularly in respect of folk/ trad/ jolly tunes/ pop /jazz etc.

The classical ,conservatory, exams and grades brigade must I suppose perforce take matters more seriarsly!

geo :evil: ;) rge
 
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